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John Pole 1864 & Charlotte Eynon 1865 . Trying to find their ancestors my connection is through his grandson Brian Pole.

hi is this your family
1901 census

Address 40 Blaencwm Ter
Civil Parish Ystradyfodwg
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Treherbert
Parliamentary Borough or Division Rhondda
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Rhondda
Administrative County Glamorganshire
Householder 1
Name Benjamin W Pole
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Coal Hewer Helper
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Charlotte Pole
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 36
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name David Pole
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Griffith Pole
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name John P Pole
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 36
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Coal Hewer
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Lewis J Pole
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 3
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Lizzie Pole
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 8
Name Maggie Pole
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 5
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 9
Name Mary J Pole
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 14
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity
Householder 10
Name Thomas J Pole
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Glamorgan Treherbert
Language
Infirmity

Could this be their marriage?

Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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DAVIES Anne Pontypridd 11a 496
Eynon Charlotte Pontypridd 11a 496
POLE John Pontypridd 11a 496
Williams Job Pontypridd 11a 496

If we can't find them on the census then the marriage certificate will give the names of their fathers and their occupations, which will help trace them in the census.

Possibly Charlotte in 1881

1881 Wales Census
about Charlotte Eynon
Name: Charlotte Eynon
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Blaenycwm Treherbert

Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: 5 & 6 Chicago Hutts (Blaen Y Cwm)
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Gen Servant

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Eynon 46
Margaret Eynon 43
Benjamin Eynon 23
David Eynon 19
Charlotte Eynon 16
Mary Ann Eynon 10
Jane Eynon 8
Richard Eynon 6
Griffith Thomas Eynon 4
David Francis 68

And 1871

1871 Wales Census
about Charlotte Eynon
Name: Charlotte Eynon
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
Town: Middle Hamlet
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 220
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Eynon 36
Margaret Eynon 33
Joseph Eynon 15
Benjamin Eynon 13
William Eynon 12
David Eynon 8
Charlotte Eynon 6
Mary A Eynon 10 months
Charlotte Eynon 78


The 78 year old Charlotte Eynon is Joseph's mother - a widow.

Charlotte's birth registration?

Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
Eynon Charlotte Pontypridd 11a 318


Possible marriage for her parents

Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%)
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Brian William Merthyr Tydfil 11a 543
>>>>>>>>Eynon Joseph Merthyr Tydfil 11a 543
>>>>>>>>Francis Margaret Merthyr Tydfil 11a 543
Parker Elizabeth Merthyr Tydfil 11a 543

Charlotte'sbirth certificate will confirm if this is correct.

Possibly John Pole in 1871

1871 Wales Census
about John Pole
Name: John Pole
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Troedyshire, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Pentrebach
Town: Merthyr Tydfil
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 233
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Pole 33
Elizabeth Pole 29
John Pole 6
Mary Ann Pole 4
David Morgan 26


and 1881

1881 Wales Census
about John Pole
Name: John Pole
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Troedyrhiw, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: 2 Lower Row
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Pole 43
Elizabeth Pole 39
John Pole 16
Mary A. Pole 14
Thomas E. Pole 9
William J. Pole 7
David Jones 39

This is magic, so many answers to so many questions, I believe John & Charlotte had as many as 17 children so I was dreading begiinng the search. Thank you so much. Claire

Here they are in 1911 - a few more children born after 1901 to add to your list

HOUSEHOLD POLE ANNIE F 1905 6 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD POLE BENJAMIN M 1889 22 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD POLE DAVID M 1895 16 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD POLE JOHN M 1865 46 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD POLE LEWIS M 1899 12 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD POLE LOTTIE F 1907 4 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD POLE PRICE M 1903 8 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD POLE CHARLOTTE F 1865 46 Pontypridd Glamorganshire

Hope this helps.

Sadly, the Griffith Pole from the 1901 census died before the 1911

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
POLE Griffith 7 Pontypridd 11a 464

Here is Thomas J Pole in 1911

HOUSEHOLD POLE THOMAS JOSEPH M 1890 21 Pontypridd Glamorganshire


Living with this family

HOUSEHOLD KING FRANCIS M 1908 3 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD KING HENRY JOHN M 1903 8 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD KING SARAH F 1878 33 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD KING WILLIAM M 1876 35 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD KING WILLIAM M 1905 6 Pontypridd Glamorganshire

You would need to purchase either the transcript or the original page to see what his relationship to the head of the house was - ie servant or boarder, etc

Here's Maggie from the 1901 census in 1911

HOUSEHOLD POLE MAGGIE F 1897 14 Pontypridd Glamorganshire

Living with this family

HOUSEHOLD DAVID LILLIAN F 1885 26 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD DAVID WALTER M 1886 25 Pontypridd Glamorganshire

A possible marriage for Mary J Pole

Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
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EVANS Thomas John Newport M 11a 396
Pole Mary Jane Newport M 11a 396
Price Mary Ann P Newport M 11a 396
WHITTAKER William John Newport M 11a 396

Possible for Lizzie/Elizabeth Pole from 1901 in the 1911 census

HOUSEHOLD POLE ELIZABETH F 1892 19 Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire

living with

HOUSEHOLD EYNON BENJAMIN M 1890 21 Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire


And here is their marriage registration

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Dykes Thomas Merthyr T 11a 1381
Eynon Benjamin Merthyr T 11a 1381
Pole Elizabeth Merthyr T. 11a 1381
Price Ann Merthyr T. 11a 1381

And possible children from that marriage

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Eynon John G Pole Merthyr T. 11a 1560

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Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
EYNON Muriel Pole Merthyr T 11a 1700

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Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Eynon Dorrien Pole Pontypridd 11a 1551

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Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Eynon Alwyn Pole Pontypridd 11a 1284

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Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
Eynon Wyndham Pole Pontypridd 11a 1001

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Births Sep 1930 (>99%)
Eynon Betty Pole Pontypridd 11a 999

Marriage for Lewis Pole

Marriages Dec 1923 (99%)

Counsell Beatrice M Pole Pontypridd 11a 1377
Pole Lewis Counsell Pontypridd 11a 1377

And possibly children from that marriage

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Pole Bernard J Counsell Pontypridd 11a 1267

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Births Dec 1927 (98%)
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Pole Valerie C Counsell Pontypridd 11a 946

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Births Dec 1931 (70%)
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Pole Shirley J Counsell Hendon 3a 611


Not sure about the last one although they could have moved area.

Marriage for Price Pole

Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%)
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Davies Margaret E Pole Pontypridd 11a 1155
Pole Price H Davies Pontypridd 11a 1155

This, sadly, may be your David Pole

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about David Pole
Name: David Pole
Residence: Cardiff
Death Date: 1 Dec 1917
Rank: GDSN.
Regiment: Grenadier Guards
Battalion: 4th Battalion.
Number: 22819
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theater of War: Aldershot

There are also some military medical records for Benjamin Pole - who evidently suffered from malarial attacks.

Marriage for Charlotte Pole

Marriages Mar 1934 (>99%)
Garside William F Pole Pontypridd 11a 871
Pole Charlotte Garside Pontypridd 11a 871

And possible one for Annie Pole

Marriages Jun 1933 (99%)
Kinsey William H D Pole Pontypridd 11a 1364
Pole Annie M Kinsey Pontypool 11a 1364

I think there has been a mistranscription of the registration district occuring here.