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Carol

Carol Report 16 Jul 2009 19:10

Hi, I am looking for information on a James Boyne who was married to a Mary Auld, in 1840, if anyone has any information on him I would be most gratefull. He was in the 1841 Cencus, living in Leith Edinburgh, but no mention in any of the later Cencus's
Carol.

Helen

Helen Report 16 Jul 2009 19:30

Children of James Boyne and Mary Auld

ALEXANDER BOYNE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 14 JUN 1843 North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
WILLIAM WRIGHT BOYNE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 APR 1849 North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
JAMES BOYNE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 APR 1847 North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
WILLIAM AULD BOYNE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 MAY 1845 North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland


1851 Scotland Census
about James Boyne
Name: James Boyne
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: No Leith, Midlothian
Parish Number: 692/1
Civil parish: Leith North
County: Midlothian
Address: Sandport St No 16 First Floor
Occupation: Hatter's Shopman
ED: 53
Page: 9 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 37
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1851_187
Household Members:
Name Age
James Boyne 34
Mary Boyne 33
Mary Boyne 9
Alexander Boyne 7
William Boyne 5
James Boyne 4
Wright Boyne 2

Mary born Linlithgow

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Jul 2009 19:33

No idea where you have been looking but they are at same address in 1851



See Helen has posted the details in full

Helen

Helen Report 16 Jul 2009 19:33

This looks like the brothers - no sign of the parents.


1861 Scotland Census
about Alexander Boyne
Name: Alexander Boyne
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Leith, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 692/1
Registration district: Leith North
Civil parish: Leith St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: Moffats Land
Occupation: Ap Sailmarker
ED: 21
Household schedule number: 64
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1861_131
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Boyne 19
Alexander Boyne 17
James Boyne 13
William W Boyne 11

Helen

Helen Report 16 Jul 2009 20:19

This looks like William now living with his sister Mary and her family. Mary's birthplace is given as Leith so that ties in correctly.


1871 Scotland Census
about William Boyne
Name: William Boyne
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Leith, Midlothian
Registration Number: 646/1
Registration district: Govan Church
Civil parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 49 Hamilton St
Occupation: Seaman
ED: 46
Household schedule number: 84
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1871_144
Household Members:
Name Age
Archibald Buchanan 28
Mary Buchanan 29
James Buchanan 2
Agnes Buchanan 2 mo
William Boyne 22

And here is Alexander, now also married.

1871 Scotland Census
about Alexr Boyne
Name: Alexr Boyne
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Leith, Midlothian
Registration Number: 692/2
Registration district: Leith South Burgh
Civil parish: Leith South
County: Midlothian
Address: 17 Darlings Brae
Occupation: Sail Maker
ED: 24
Household schedule number: 32
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1871_169
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexr Boyne 28
Annie Boyne 34
James Boyne 2

It's beginning to look like James and Mary may have died after the 1851 census and before 1855 when registration began. Had a look on Scotlandspeople for Mary Auld / Boyne and no matches are coming up. Also had a look for a death for James up till 1861 and there's only one death coming up - but not in Midlothian.

Can't see either James or Mary on the census following 1851.

Carol

Carol Report 16 Jul 2009 20:45

Hi Helen,
I have been looking at Scotlands People and found a Mary Auld's death in1851 aged 25 trying to piece things together, the rest of the information you have emailed seems to tie in, thank's. will let you no how thing's work out.
Carol.

Carol

Carol Report 16 Jul 2009 20:55

Hi Helen, I also have a marraige certificate for James Boyne and Mary Auld, date 1840 at Linthigow, her father being William Auld.
thank's.
Carol.

Helen

Helen Report 16 Jul 2009 21:19

Hi Carol,

Did you say you found a death for Mary Auld ?

What year was it.

I had a look on Scotlandspeople and can't see it. Checked using the x-ref for maiden and married names Auld and Boyne.


Also according to the IGI, Mary and James were married in Edinburgh on the 5th June 1840. Is that the one you've found. It's just that you mentioned they were married in Linlithgow.


Found a possible birth for Mary Auld.

Mary Auld
3rd March 1816 at Linlithgow, West Lothian

Father: William Auld
Mother: Marion Wright

William Wright Boyne may have got his middle name from Mary's mother.


Carol

Carol Report 16 Jul 2009 22:18

Hi Helen, The marraige I have is that of james and mary at linlithgow on the 5th June 1840, and the death cert I have for Mary is 14th May 1851 from Scotlands People, I will be looking into that tomorrow, and hopefully get some answers.
Carol.

Carol

Carol Report 17 Jul 2009 16:47

Hi Helen, thought I would let you no that I have read through all the information you sent to me, and everything seems to tie in except for Mary and James, their marraige date seems correct time and date except for the church, but maybe that came under Edinburgh back then, not sure, also the death certificate is wrong for Mary so have to start again, and look into that one, can't seem to find anything on James or Mary's Death.
Thank's again for you're help.
Carol.

Helen

Helen Report 17 Jul 2009 17:49

Hi Carol,

I’ve checked again on the IGI and also Scotlandspeople Old Parish Records for the marriage of James and Mary and only one result comes up on both.

Same info as before: Married 5th June 1840 in St Cuthbert’s Edinburgh.

Where did you get your information on them being married in Linlithgow ?


What information did you get from Mary’s death. There is a death for Mary Auld / Boyne on Scotlandspeople:

Old Parish Register Deaths and Burials.

Mary Auld / Boyne (cross-ref two names)
1851
County: Midlothian
District: St Cuthbert’s

Is this the one you found ?

Helen

Carol

Carol Report 17 Jul 2009 19:00

Hi Helen, my apologies, the death certificate I have is for Mary,read the wrong column!! but the marraige certificate I got from Scotlands People, (O.P.R.Marraiges685/002 0440 0390 St Cuthbert's) Register of Marraiges for 1840, is that any help?
Carol

Helen

Helen Report 17 Jul 2009 19:07

Carol,

Have you downloaded the marriage record for James and Mary and are you satisfied they belong to your family.

I realise the death details for Mary may not tell you much but have you also looked at them.

Helen

Helen

Helen Report 17 Jul 2009 19:15

Here is the 1841 census for James and Mary .... and possibly Mary's brother.


1841 Scotland Census
about James Boyne
Name: James Boyne
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland

Civil parish: North Leith
County: Midlothian
Address: Sandport St
Occupation: Walter
Parish Number: 692/1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Boyne 20
Mary Boyne 20
Thomas Auld 10

If you have the marriage record for James and Mary does it mention James' occupation ?

Helen

Carol

Carol Report 17 Jul 2009 20:07

Hi Helen, I am fairley happy with the marraige of Mary and James, it was something my daughter said about the Linthigow and Edinburgh back then maybe Linthigow came under Edinburgh, something I will try and find out. About the marraige certificate all it say's is that Mary Auld residing at in the parish of linthigow, Daughter of William Auld . Slater in Linlithgow.That is all the information it gives. I can't seem to find anything about James Boyne, the address on the Marraige certificate is (what it looks like) 29 Leith Street Terrace, so is this Edinburgh I don't no.
Carol.

Carol

Carol Report 17 Jul 2009 20:20

Hi Helen, James occupation at the time of marraige was a Hatter, which does fit into the family tree, as this seems to have been the trade of 1 or 2 of the Boyne's.
Carol.

Carol

Carol Report 17 Jul 2009 20:22

Hi Helen, forgot to mention the address is no.9 not 29.
Carol.

Helen

Helen Report 17 Jul 2009 20:31

Carol,

This looks like the 1841 census for Mary's parents in Linlithgow. As you can see, her father's occupation is a slater (as mentioned on Mary's marriage record)


1841 Scotland Census
about William Auld
Name: William Auld
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Gender: Male
Where born: West Lothian, Scotland

Civil parish: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: High Street
Occupation: Slater
Parish Number: 668
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Auld 47
Mary Auld 41
Agnes Auld 24
Alexander Auld 19
Elizabeth Auld 9

Linlithgow is in West Lothian ... as opposed to Edinburgh in Midlothian

Helen

Helen

Helen Report 17 Jul 2009 20:37

Carol,

Are you saying 9 Leith St Terrace is mentioned on the marriage record for James and Mary (from the Old Parish Record)


And yes, Leith St Terrace would have been in Edinburgh.

Helen

Carol

Carol Report 17 Jul 2009 20:43

Hi Helen, thankyou once again for the information, I will try and trace where James was born, and maybe then I will no who his parents were and where he came from. I have tried Scotlands People, but nothing.
Carol.