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samuel handy iv found him maried to kate in 1891 and in 1901 living in south shields place of birth listed as birmingham. he was born about 1862 but i can find no other record of him please help thanks

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sorry samuel handy

1901 just for info

Name: Samuel Handy
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Kate
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: South Westoe St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 240
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Handy 39
Kate Handy 36 North Shields
Lilian Handy 2 - 12 on image, South Shields
John Handy 9
George Handy 6
Harold Handy 4




1891 just for info
Name: Samuel Handy
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Handy 28
Catherine Handy 26
Herbert Handy 5
Kate E Handy 3
Lillian Handy 1

thats him harold was my grandad

1881 just posting this one but not sure - need to have a think about it

Name: Samuel Hanly
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: Court 17 No 4 Moreville St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Metal Shinner

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Tedslone 26
Ann Tedslone 25
William Tedslone 3
Letice Tedslone 2
William Handly 21 - gas fitter, born Birmingham
Samuel Hanly 18

If it is him a change of occupation !!

yes that is the same family what im realy looking for is any record of samuel befor 1891

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Andrews Mary South Shields 10a 863
Cavers Kate Emily S.Shields 10a 863
HANDY Samuel S. Shields 10a 863
Tidd John South Shields 10a 863


Do you have the cert?

thanks some of the near names look interesting may take some time to look in to

Oh bother

Going back to the 1881 I posted.

1871 William Handley is a boarder and so is Samuel Handley but in different households

So I think at the moment rule out that 1881 posting as the spelling is different


Maureen

no i do not have the marriage certificate i had not found the marriage sorry for this but i dont understand why ther are four names listed for the marrige samuel and kat but who are the others sorry if its adaft question

thanks

About Catherine / Kate Cavers:

1871 England Census
about Kate E Cavers
Name: Kate E Cavers
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Northnd, No Shields
Civil parish: Chirton
Ecclesiastical parish: Western Town
Town: North Shields
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:
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Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 158
Household Members: Name Age
John Weatherstone
24
Margaret Weatherstone
24
John C Weatherstone
1
Barbara Weatherstone
6 months
Kate E Cavers
6




1881 England Census
about Kate Caveers
Name: Kate Caveers
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Gender: Female
Where born: N Shields, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: "Girls Reformatory School" Tatham Street
Education:

Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15



Births Mar 1865
Cavers Catherine Emily (Tynemouth 10b 152)

thanks thats briliant

'Mornin all,

This HAS to be him on 1881 at 90 Cleveland Street - with Kate's family next door at No 92 !!! ???

1881 England Census
about Samuel Handy
Name: Samuel Handy
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Westoe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 90 Cleveland St

Occupation: Iron Ship Builder

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe

Household Members: Name Age
Ann Handy 48 widow b Wolverhampton
Thomas Handy 19
Samuel Handy 17 b Wolverhampton (It's quite close to Birmingham!!)
Fanney Handy 15
William Handy 13
Martha Handy 8
Emily Handy 6

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5011; Folio: 97; Page: 14; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342207.

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1881 England Census
about Catherine Cavers
Name: Catherine Cavers
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Jarrow, Durham, England

Civil parish: Westoe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 92 Cleveland St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Milliner

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Cavers 30 widow
Jane Eliz. Cavers 14
John Cavers 11
Henry Charlton 7

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5011; Folio: 97; Page: 14; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342207.

You have, of course, already found where Kate was (naughty girl?)

Dea x

The above would seem to lead to this family on 1871:

1871 England Census
about Samuel Handy
Name: Samuel Handy
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Nk, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Handsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Staffordshire


Disability: View image
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Handsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Handy 47 labourer
Ann Handy 36
Thos Handy 8
Samuel Handy 6
William Handy 3

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2968; Folio: 13; Page: 20; GSU roll: 836431.

Dea x

thanks all seems to fit nicely . some good stuff i had looked at samuel handy 1864 wolverhampton and discarded him . as a member has him on his tree i sent a mesage unfortunately the member did not belive there was a conection.. looking at some of the information he may be wrong thanks to all