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Will do what you suggested Janey as it sounds like I'll have a good chance of finding somewhere that does the book, thanks.
Lots of info there Ann on the history of the name really helpful I didn't know it had links to all those places so thanks :)

Surname: Bartrop
Recorded in a very wide range of spellings including Barthrop, Barthropp, Bartheropp, Barthrup, Bartrop, Bartropp, and Bartrap, this is an English surname. It is locational from a village called Barthorpe in the parish of Acklam, in the East Riding of Yorkshire. First recorded in the famous Domesday Book of 1086 as "Barchetorp", the name is of Danish-Viking pre 8th century origins, the region being in Danish hands for several centuries. It describes an outlying farm or settlement (torp) which belonged to a man called "Borkr", the latter being an early personal name whose etymology is uncertain. Locational surnames were usually "from" names. That is to say names given to people after they left their original homes to move somewhere else usually in search of work. This could be the next village or far away in say London, where this name is recorded from the middle of the 17th century. Early examples of the recordings taken from surviving church registers include: John Barthrop of Drypool, East Yorkshire, on May 1st 1594, Elizabeth Barthripp of Kingston-upon-Hull on September 22nd 1613, and Nathaniel Barthropp, a witness at St Mary Whitchapel, Stepney, city of London, on May 27th 1694.

I do think the Society of Genealogists as mentioned by Choccy after I did all that circus hunting is probably the best source.

I've successfully used google to find and buy obscure books by two distant rellies - two (poetry self-published by the author in the 20s) from rare book dealers in the UK and one (a 1950s novel by an obscure South African author) from a children's charity in South Africa. That's why I sound so confident that if there were a copy out there on offer, it would turn up on a net search. ;)

I just felt that Janey had given such a wealth of information and you had appeared to ignore it, as did Janey - it only takes a second to type a response - having said that I also have no wish to offend anyone

Whoa! No need to all gang up on me now!
Firstly I haven't been on since I last posted on here yesterday so any responses after that I've only just read and second I checked really quickly so I'm sorry JaneyCanuck that I didn't mention you in my post but I literally had to get off the computer as it's not mine, and your info was really good thanks so hope there's no hard feelings.
No offence Ann but you didn't comment on the thread's topic you just commented to moan at me atleast Janey had a good reason to moan at me!

she seems to know how the system works as she has been back and posted on this thread

Have PM'd Christina. Perhaps she doesn't realise that GR don't inform her of any responses.

Googling the name of a book (with the author's surname, if the title consists of a phrase that might appear in other contexts) will find any "rare books" site at which it is on offer. There is no need to search booksellers site by site.

Online booksellers make quite sure that their wares can be found by internet search engines.

If you google "rare books" several sites appear
Liz

shame Christina that you failed to notice or acknowledge the wealth of information that Janey posted for you!!!!

if you google 'the bar tree by robert baltrop', the first entry is entitled

Print Page - Chickney Parish lookup please (Barltop/Turner)

If you click on that it is an extract from a Rootschat forum, which gives lots of info about The Bar Tree and the Baltrops


It also states -

A copy of “The Bar Tree” is held by the Society of Genealogists in London.

Oops, I guess I was posting in invisible ink again.

Glad you appreciated that research and info, Christina.

Do you know any rare book sites?
I couldn't find anywhere that did it.

Sounds interesting though so if anyone knows anything about the Barltrops' do let me know. My great grandmother was Annie and her parents were Alfred and Mary.

Robert Barltrop sounds like a fascinating man and what a shame he died this year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Barltrop

According to this one:

http://www.futurestratford.com/people_detail.php?peopleID=8

he had three sons -- "two are in the circus and one is a policeman"!!

The book was published privately, I see on the net, so his family might be the best source for access to it.

If you google

barltrop circus

I think the Nick and Chris you'll find are probably those sons.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2007/nov/22/therearenoscientificground

"Chris Barltrop, chairman, Circus Industry Sub-Group, DEFRA Circus Working Group"

So he could probably be contacted here:

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/act/circus.htm


Somehow, I just gravitate to the circus folk threads - usually when the people who post them don't even know they're about circus folk. ;)

Have you tried a "rare books" site
Liz

If you do a google search search, something like

the bar tree barltrop

there is some info.

Andy

Hi

Does anyone know where I might get a copy of a book called The Bar Tree? It was written by Robert Barltrop and has information about the Barltrop's I was hoping it might give me more information about my great grandmother Annie Barltrop.