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Cherilyn
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2 Jun 2009 09:45 |
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Hi all
Seeking info on James CLOSE.
Born c1840 in Northallerton, Yorks. He came to Australia and married (twice, 1875 & 1889) in Victoria, then went to Western Australia, where he died in 1907 aged 68 (I have info on wives, children and burial, thanx!).
Just seeking info about his parents and siblings please!
It is possible he came to Victoria aged only 5 in 1844 aboard 'Wallace' - if so, his parents were Thomas (39) & Margaret (37) and he had siblings John (13) Elizabeth (12) Martha Jane (9) Thos (8) and Agnes (1). However, looking at the vicbdms this family had links back to Armargh, so not sure.
Thanks! Cherilyn
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Barbara
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2 Jun 2009 09:52 |
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Name: James Close Age: 3 weeks Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Anderby Steeple Hundred: East Gilling County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Close 35 Jane Close 35 Mary Close 2 James Close 3 weeks Cannot find this family in 1851 census
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2 Jun 2009 10:12 |
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Ainderby Steeple is just three miles form Northallerton. It has it's own church St Helens, annoyingly the parish records for the baptisms on the IGi have a gap in them for the years you need . the full records are in the North Yorkshire records office in Northallerton
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Vera
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2 Jun 2009 10:35 |
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Hi Found this marriage... Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLOSE Jane Northallerton 24 547 Fishburn Barnet Northallerton 24 547 LAYFIELD Margaret Northallerton 24 547 SMITH John Northallerton 24 547 STURDY George Northallerton 24 547
1861 James Close Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Wife Son (Ambiguous) Gender: Male Where born: Thrintoft, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thrintoft County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Household Members: Name Age George Sturdy 46 Jane Sturdy 56 Jane E Sturdy 11 Mary Close 22 wifes daughter James Close 19 wife son George Close 7 Mo wifes grandson
Will check the 1851
Regards VEra
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Vera
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2 Jun 2009 10:38 |
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1851 Jane Sturdy Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Gender: Female Where born: Scruton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thrintoft County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Appleton ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 21 Household Members: Name Age George Sturdy 35 Jane Sturdy 44 Mary Close 12 James Close 9 Jane Elizth Sturdy 1 Regards Vera
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Vera
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2 Jun 2009 10:40 |
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Could be James' death... Deaths Sep 1842 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Close James Northallerton 24 276
Regards Vera
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Cherilyn
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2 Jun 2009 10:55 |
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This looks great, Barbara, spot on I would reckon.
Thanks for the extra info Linda, it is hard being an Aussie and not knowing the placenames at all! His 2nd marriage showed his birthplace as 'Nathallerton', luckily Google helped me on that one! Maybe it was the Yorkshire accent ;-)
Great detective work Vera!
Does Jane appear on later censuses? Might check to see if she also came to Australia...
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Vera
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2 Jun 2009 10:59 |
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Hi Cherilyn, Have been trying to find them om the 1871.....found their daughter Jane E Sturdy....but so far not her parents....
Regards Vera
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Vera
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2 Jun 2009 11:58 |
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1871 Looks like George might have remarried ?? George Sturdy Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Isabella H Gender: Male Where born: Otterington, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thrintoft Town: Thrintoft County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age George Sturdy 54 Isabella H Sturdy 45 Agness Sturdy 6 Adelaid Sturdy 3 Next door are a family called Close....
1871 John Close Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Thrintoft, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thrintoft Town: Thrintoft County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age John Close 68 Ann Close 60 James Close 27
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this is John and Ann Close...next door neighbours to the Sturdys, but with their James Close John Close Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Thrintoft, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thrintoft County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 21 Household Members: Name Age John Close 61 Ann Close 49
1851 thought I would check to see if John and Ann also had a son called James....they did...
John Close Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Thrintoft, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thrintoft County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Appleton ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 20 Household Members: Name Age John Close 52 Ann Close 40 Robert Close 11 Wm Close 9 James Close 7 Regards Vera
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2 Jun 2009 14:37 |
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Cherilyn.
Its interesting that you say James gives his birth as Nathallerton.
I have a sister in law who lives there.I also used to live in Yorkshire and pronounced it as Nathallerton or ( Nuthallerton to the ear).
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Cherilyn
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5 Jun 2009 04:57 |
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Quinsgran - there you go, it all makes perfect sense! :-)
Just to update - have just received James jnr's marriage certificate and it shows his parents as James CLOSE (farmer) and Jane WATSON.
This seems to fit neatly with the census info.
Can I just ask where James snr was born, if it is shown in the 1841 census?
Found Jas jnr's sister Mary's birth in Northallerton in 1839. Possible marriage to John Roger ATKINSON in Northallerton in 1862.
Any sign of her in 1871 census? I think I have her in 1881 as ATKINSON, aged 42, living in Durham with 5 children (youngest 4 born in Stockton on Tees, Durham).
Also George CLOSE aged 7 and shown as grandson - does that mean Mary had a child at age 15/16?!
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Barbara
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5 Jun 2009 07:28 |
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From IGI parish registers Results for: Close, British Isles Father: James Close, Mother: Jane Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C039631 [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 2 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. MARY CLOSE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 MAR 1839 Ainderby Steeple, Yorkshire, England 2. JAMES CLOSE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 19 MAY 1841 Ainderby Steeple, Yorkshire, England Unfortunately the 1841 census does not give places of birth only County
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Barbara
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5 Jun 2009 07:38 |
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1871 census for Mary
Name: Mary Atkinson Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Ainderby, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: St Thomas Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Stockton County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 3 Bishopton Terrace
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Stockton Sub-registration district: Stockton ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 40 Household Members: Name Age John Atkinson 31 Northallerton a printer employing 2 men and 2 boys Mary Atkinson 33 Ainderby George Francis Atkinson 10 Ainderby Bertha Atkinson 4 John James Atkinson 4 Mary Atkinson 9 months Margaret Elizabeth Ransom 15 Thomas Robinson Appleton 19 George Newton Dote 26 John Forbes 33
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Barbara
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5 Jun 2009 08:36 |
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Hi Cherilyn George Close was only 7 months old in 1861 and Mary was 22 and a School Teacher He became George Francis Atkinson so looks as though she had George before she married
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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CLOSE George Francis Northallerton 9d 433
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atkinson John Roger Northallerton 9d 895 Close Mary Northallerton 9d 895
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Cherilyn
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5 Jun 2009 11:00 |
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Ah, yes thank you Barbara, that makes perfect sense. I missed that he was 7 months and assumed it was 7 yrs. That explains him on the 1881 census aged 20 (as ATKINSON, as you say). Her husband John - in 1871, Barbara, you have him as a printer but in 1881 he is a painter employing 6 men and 6 boys? He is still in Durham in 1901 census aged 60 (as a painter and decorator) but died a couple of years later.
Thanks for the extra info Linda about Ainderby Steeple, forgot to mention earlier!
I wonder if John CLOSE who lived next door was James' brother...!?
I found George's marriage to Isabella (her 2nd marriage too) in Northallerton, I think a year after Jane died in Stockton. All fits together very neatly!
Thank you all for your great help on this one!
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Barbara
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5 Jun 2009 16:07 |
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Hi Cherilyn The 1871 census says he was a Printer but I think you are right as on this census the 1861 he is living with his brother and it states he is a Apprentice painter Best wishes Barbara
Name: John R Atkinson Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Northallerton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Northallerton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Atkinson 26 Ann Atkinson 24 John C Atkinson 2 John R Atkinson 19
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Barbara
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5 Jun 2009 18:02 |
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From Whites Directory 1840 Northallerton Thought this might be of interest Next time I am in Northallerton I will go have a look at the Crown
Inns and taverns,
Black Bull Inn, Robert Smith Black Swan, Ann Jackson Buck, Anthony Kemp Crown, Thomas Close Drovers' Inn, Simon Hirdman Durham Ox, Thomas Barker Fleece, Hannah Guthrie George and Dragon, John Best George Inn, Dorothy Clithero Golden Lion Inn, John Shepherd Hare and Hounds, Jane Foggin
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