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I have James Thomas Dignum' s birth certificate, as I thought it might have been in my Dignum family.
James Thomas Dignum, b 11th October 1845 at 5 Little Thames Street, Greenwich,
Father James Dignum, engineer
Mother Harriet Dignum, formerly Steed.

My Dignums are in Greenwich, then Northfleet at this time.
Francis Dignum, married to Mary Hope 1843 Greenwich St Alphage
First child John Francis Dignum, b 10 sept 1844 Northfleet. The next fourof her children were illegitimate.
I cannot make a direct connection from my Dignums to Judith with my current data.
Best wishes
Helen

I must admit I hadn't noticed the "my threads" but I'll be making use of it in future :)

I have searched for both Harriet Payne and Steed in the IGI to see if it would be worth getting the marriage certificate but there doesn't appear to be much of interest. I don't think that even if I had the certificate I would progress much further with her line. I've also come to a dead end with Phililp Dignum so thought I'd have a look at William (1816) - another dead end.

I'll just keep searching but many thanks for your help.

It's easy to check for replies, not that this site makes it easy to find that out.

Click on "My threads" on the left side there and you'll see any thread you've started or posted in, with any thread that has recent replies at the top.

As to which Harriet James married (I didn't realize I'd missed one there), only James's marriage certificate, or a child's birth certificate, will say for sure. And of course the marriage certificate will name his father, if he knew it / his parents were married.

In many cases the possible brides can be traced backward to see which matches the details for the person after marriage, but in the case of an 1839 marriage, that won't work. ;)

Sorry everyone!! I didn't realise there were any replies.

Yes, that's definitely the family I'm looking at although I'm not sure whether it was Harriet Payne or Steed that James married. I haven't been able to find James' brother William b1816 on any census returns etc and have just asked Jackie to do a look-up before I realised I had so many replies here.

I can't find any other children of James and Harriet apart from William b1840 and have traced the line down through him. I'm pretty sure that Harriet died in 1851 and wondered whether James remarried. All of William's family settled in Battersea and I've just got a hunch that the Dignums who settled in Clapham are connected somehow. (There seem to be three main areas that the Dignums originate from - either Northwich, Mile End and Wandsworth.) I think that William b1816 or any further children of James and Harriet may be the link.

Once again, thanks for all your help and apologies for my tardiness in replying.

Judy

Oh, you mean kinda like when I try to make pastry. ;)


Judith Judith Judith! Come back and look!

A brother for James???????

Pallot's Baptism Index for England: 1780 - 1837
about Wm Dignum
Name: Wm Dignum
Baptism Date: 1816
Parent 1: Philip Dignum
Parent 2: MaryDignum
Parish: St. Anne
County: Soho, Middlesex

the words, BOMB and GONE OFF come to mind!!!

Oh, Dee. Excuses excuses. ;)

Maybe, possible????????

PHILIP DIGNUM Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY DARLING Family
Marriage: 09 JAN 1815 Saint Anne Soho, Westminster, London, England


Dee x

Had a kitchen emergency........ 6 year old making herself a sandwich....... looks like her dad's been in there!!!

Aha! A mother's name in the census there.

So how about ...


JAMES DIGNUM
Birth: 28 FEB 1818
Christening: 11 JUN 1827 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England
Father: PHILIP DIGNUM
Mother: MARY
Batch No.: C006323


??

Would this be a brother?

Births Mar 1843
Dignam John Greenwich 5 243


If so, the birth certificate would give Harriet's name, to confirm the marriage.

Yep.......... lots neater, thank god it's not my handwritting, think I was an enumorater in a former life (lots of mistranscriptions!!!)

Looks like them;

1841 England Census
about William Degnum
Name: William Degnum
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
Hundred: Blackheath
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Degnum 20
Harriett Degnum 20
Mary Degnum 55
William Degnum 1


Dee x

Hi Janey.

Beat ya to it! And mine is soooo much neater. ;)

Hi Judith,

So it's this family we want then??

WILLIAM JAMES DIGNUM Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 AUG 1840 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES DIGNUM Family
Mother: HARRIET

Is this the parents' marriage?

Marriages Dec 1839
Payne Harriet St. Geo. Southwk. 4 444
Dignum James St. G. Southwick 4 444

(Among several names on the same page; only the certificate will say whether they were a couple, of course.)

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

The marriage certificate should give you their fathers' names.


WILLIAM JAMES DIGNUM
Christening: 23 AUG 1840 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England
Father: JAMES DIGNUM
Mother: HARRIET
Batch No.: C006324

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_igi.asp

The math there didn't quite work. ;)

Marriages Sep *1860*
Cape Sarah Elizabeth Bethnal Gn 1c 626
Dignum William Bethnal Gn 1c 626

I'm especially interested in William Dignum b1840 who married Sarah Cape in 1841. They and their subsequent family were all based in Battersea. I've found William's father James who was born in 1821 and married Harriet ? in 1839 in Southwark but I'm not sure about James' father. There appears to be another Dignum family in the Clapham area and I'm trying to establish whether they are actually connected to mine via James Dignum b1821.

I hope this makes sense.

Hi Judith,


You need to give chrisian names and dates.

Does anyone have any information on the Dignum family who were based in Battersea?