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I'd be very grateful if someone could possibly look for the following in the Plymouth Reg Office Please.

A marriage between Williams & Opie.
Believe in the date range of 1882 - 1911

He being John Williams & she Minnie Opie.
But not 100% sure if Minnie is the correct forename, so any Williams & Opie would be a great help.

Many many thanks for reading.
Best regards.

do you have another thread about this Minnie Opie?
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1139682

( history board, I'll budge it back up)
That is a big span - what gives you those dates?

Hi, Yes I do, do I need to continue on this same thread, sorry if this is so. Thought had to re do for Records.

We have not been able to find a marriage so far, I have been advised to check in reg office in Plymouth as for some reason they are not always on line from here, especially Devonport. Not sure why this is.

Date span to cover from aprox Minnie being 18 yrs till we believe John Williams died.

Its useful to mention the other thread - so people can see what has already been done.

i am slightly confused by he 1891 census. Minnie is still at home

Name: Lucinda C Opie
[Lucinda C Williams]

Henry Opie 41
Lucinda C Opie 40
Ada C Opie 19
Minnie C Opie 18
Herbert L Opie 16 <<<
Harold J Opie 14
Towan Opie 12
Reginald Opie 10
Ann Williams 66
Enid M Opie 5

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DALE Mary Jane Falmouth 5c 303
OPIE Henry Falmouth 5c 303 <<
WILLIAMS Lucinda Falmouth 5c 303 <<
WOODLEY Alfred Falmouth 5c 303

.....and if its the right family, she (minnie) is still at home in 1901

1901 England Census
about Enid Opie
Name: Enid Opie
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Penryn, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Penryn
Ecclesiastical parish: Penryn and St Gluvias and St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England


Registration district: Falmouth
Sub-registration district: Penryn
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Opie 50
Ada Martin 30
Minnie Opie 28
Herbert Opie 26
Harold Opie 24
Towan Opie 21
Reggie Opie 19
Nicholas Martin 32
Enid Opie 15

Looking at the other thread, Minnie is 29 on the 1901 and at home with John, Rosina and Maud (Williams).

going to put it here too!

maybe a break thru!

Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%)
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Bennetts Eliza Jane Redruth 5c 326
Goldsworthy James Redruth 5c 326
Opie Amelia Ellen Redruth 5c 326 99%)
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Hocking William Henry Redruth 5c 348
OPIE Bertha Redruth 5c 348

maybe she hada sister called bertha?
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Poo! there are 5 Amelia Opie's in 1881!

Amelia Opie William abt 1841 Kea, Cornwall, England Wife Gwennap, Cornwall <<too old
View Record
Amelia E. Opie Elizabeth abt 1849 Gwenap, Cornwall, England Daughter Illogan, Cornwall <<Too old
View Record
Amelia Opie abt 1860 Devonshire, Devon, England Servant Acton, Middlesex
View Record
Amelia Opie Thomas T.,
Bathsheba abt 1866 St Agnes, Cornwall, England Daughter St Agnes, Cornwall

Amelia E. Opie Amelia E. abt 1867 Gwenap, Cornwall, England

jus in case

Amelia A Opie William W,
Elizabeth abt 1861 Devonport, Devon, England Daughter Aldershot, Hampshire

Amelia Opie Thomas J,
Bathsheba abt 1866 St Agnes, Cornwall, England Daughter St Agnes, Cornwall

Amelia A Opie Francis,
Mary A abt 1867 Gwennap, Cornwall, England Daughter Gwennap, Cornwall

Amelia A Opie Francis,
Mary A abt 1867 Gwennap, Cornwall, England

Hi Minnie, No unfortunately this isn't the correct family.

At this time, we can find no parentage for Minnie; we do have certs to confirm, daughters’ births, where John is stated on both as father. On eldest daughter’s death he is stated as deceased, we know she died in 1911, so looking for marriage up to that date.

Without a marriage cert don’t seem to be able to confirm parents etc.
Just hoping they actually married.

1898 Minnie is living at 13 Castle St. Plymouth, with husband John, Children Maud 6yrs, Rosina at birth.

1901 Census she is living 32 & 33 Kinterbury St. Plymouth, with husband John, Children Maud 8yrs, Rosina 2yrs

1911 Census Minnie is living at 27A Buckwell St. Plymouth. She is living with daughter Rosina.

Hi Minnie,

Checked through the marriages you pulled up earlier. Seems James Goldsworthy married Amelia, according to the 1891 Census, I have checked through 10 Goldsworthy's & 9 John Williams's on this Census, and this was the only one to come up.

Had hoped that may have been a good link, but afraid not.

Thanks anyway.

Hi Christine,

Many Many thanks for checking that for me, I really appreciate it, unfortunately that then really does bring us to a dead end. Also thanks for the baptism dates.

Unsure really as where to go from here.

Thanks to all who have tried to help.

Regards.
C.

I wonder if anyone can look these up on the 1891 to see who married who?

Marriages Jun 1884
Evans Louisa Falmouth 5c 280
GOODMAN John Edwin Falmouth 5c 280
Opie Mary Ann Falmouth 5c 280
WILLIAMS Edward John Falmouth 5c 280

One other thought, could Minnie have been married before and her marriage to John Williams would be under another surname?

Hi Selena, They say great minds think alike, those are the marriages Im checking out at the mo.

Having trouble finding anything.

Not sure if Minnie was married before, Going on the census dates seems she was born in 1867, which brings this Mary Ann Opie also into play. Fingers crossed.

Regards.

Hi Chrissy, one other possibility but unlikely as I expect Minnie here married Samuel but might be worth a look.

Marriages Sep 1890
JAMES Mary Jane Redruth 5c 317
JAMES Samuel John Redruth 5c 317
JANE Minnie Redruth 5c 317
Opie William Redruth 5c 317

Hi Again Selena,

On the records you pulled:

Marriages Jun 1884

Evans Louisa Falmouth 5c 280
GOODMAN John Edwin Falmouth 5c 280
Opie Mary Ann Falmouth 5c 280
WILLIAMS Edward John Falmouth 5c 280

I have not been able to find anything to confirm or otherwise in the 1891 Census.

Looks like may just have to get the cert for Mary and see if this comes up trumps.

Regards,
C.

Hi Again Christine,

Is it possible to find out the God parents at a baptism, if they had them in 1901 that is. As if so that would be a great help with Maud & Rosina Williams's line.
(St Andrews 26-06-1901)

Regards,
Chrissy.

Hi Christine,

Ok & thanks anyway.

Actully I would be interested in the details of a few other members of my family, diff surname. If you would be so kind to check for me please.

But would I have to start a new thread or do I carry on with this one?

Best regards,
Chris.

Hi Christine, That's excellent, thanks.

Anything on the following would be really good.

Francis Albert E. Tout b. 1890
Edward Joseph Tout b. 1892
Florence Rhoda Tout b.1895
Walter John Tout b.1897
Stanley Cecil Tout b. 1898
Lynda Mary Tout b.1900
William Albert Tout b.1902
Laurence James Tout b.1903
Violet Williams b.1903c
Grace Mary Tout b. 1904
Beatrice Mary Tout b 1924 b.
Stanley Tout b 1926 .
Ivor Francis Tout b1930
Albert Tout b 1930
Violet May Tout b1932c

All I believe were born in or around the Plymouth area.There are quite a few more than I expected here, so unsure how many you will be able or wish to find.

Many many thanks,
C

Hi Christine,

Thanks a lot, the info on Florence is a great help, she would be my great great aunt, I had nothing on her at all, so this will help with opening a few more doors. I have already been able to find 3 tree's with Robert Kite in, in the Plymouth area, so hopefully will get something back from them.

Do you know if Plymstock, Plympton & Devonport come under the Plymouth info or would they be listed seperately? I know they do now, but unsure of back in the 1050's etc.

Thank you again.

Best wishes,
Chris