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1881 census for the three children in different households - but only possibles, need to look into this a bit more to confirm they are the right children.

John TURNER Head M Male 36 Lambeth, Surrey, England Boiler Maker
Eliza TURNER Wife M Female 54 Hackney, Middlesex, England
Job CHANCE Br In Law W Male 58 Gt Marlow, Berkshire, England Labr (Boiler Makers)
***** Edward GOODWIN Adop Son U Male 10 Southwark, Surrey, England Scholar
Dwelling 19 Russell Place
Census Place Southwark St Saviour, Surrey, England

John GOODWIN
Birth Year
Birthplace Kentish Town, Middlesex, England
Age 14
Occupation Detained Under Industrial Schools Act
Marital Status
Head of Household Joseph WOOD
Relation Inmate

Institution "Middlesex County Industrial School" Feltham
Census Place Feltham, Middlesex, England

OR MORE LIKELY
John GOODWIN
Birth Year
Birthplace London, Middlesex, England
Age 11
Occupation Scholar
Marital Status
Head of Household Alfred LEWIS
Relation Inmate
Institution "Somerset Boys Industrial School"
Census Place Twerton, Somerset, England

Emma GOODWIN
Birth Year
Birthplace Clapham, Surrey, England
Age 12
Occupation Scholar
Marital Status U
Head of Household Elizabeth BURLEIGH
Relation Orphan

Dwelling 35 Harmer St Girls Home
Census Place Milton In Gravesend, Kent, England

Possible birth

Births Dec 1868
GOODWIN John Ebenezer Lambeth 1d 390

Selena thanks for that it does seem to fit.
I have just ordered the marriage cert so will find out in a week.

If you have found the children could you post them or PM me with your suggestions.

thanks again to all.

Yes I think I found her children on the 1881 in different households.

I think the Bermondsey birth seems the right one. Getting her marriage certificate is the best way to go as it will give her fathers name and also the witnesses might be relatives.

good luck

I think shes not long widowed with 3 young children I understand they were adopted or spread around to other family.
Shes probably just lodging ther.

Just curious, how she is connected to Horatio Williams?

Selena yes thats the one for sure in 1881.

|s this the 1881 you refer to?

Horatio J. WILLIAMS Son (Head) U Male 24 Chatham, Kent, England Shopman Boot Trade
Charlotte GOODWIN Other W Female 43 Rochester, Kent, England
Rose E. TUCKER Lodger U Female 24 Snimton ?, Nottingham, England Dressmaker

Dwelling 136 Lillington St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England

Births Mar 1857
Williams Horatio John Medway 2a 313

If Bermondsey is now correct, this is a possible sister with mothers maiden name given as well

Mary Ann Ling
Christening: 11 NOV 1838 St Mary, Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Father: John Ling
Mother: Harriot Jeffery

1881 family

Household:

John LING Head M Male 74 Stratford, Essex, England Watchman Unemployed
Harriett LING Wife M Female 70 Southwark, Surrey, England
Mary Ann LING Daur U Female 42 Southwark, Surrey, England
Sarah Ann LING Daur U Female 33 Southwark, Surrey, England

You need her marriage certificate to establish her father's name and occupation.

Could this be her in 1871......

1871 England Census
about Charlotte Goodwin
Name: Charlotte Goodwin
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington First
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members: Name Age
John Goodwin 49
Charlotte Goodwin 33
Anne M Goodwin 21
Emma Goodwin 3
John E Goodwin 2
Edward Goodwin 1


This is from the IGI......

CHARLOTTE ELIZA LING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 29 MAY 1836 Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, London, England

Father: John
Mother: Harriett

You say she was definitely born in Rochester Kent. If you are basing this solely on the 1881 census, errors of birth places were commonly made
and can't be taken as 100% correct. Do you have any other evidence of her birthplace?

This should be the marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
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GOODWIN John Lambeth 1d 715
Ling Charlotte E Lambeth 1d 715

Andy

Shes on 1881 census as Goodwin a widow at St George Hanover Sq.
We do know her Maiden name is Ling.

I believe this website has parish records for Rochester area?

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=/Z4a_Medway_Ancestors/

Martin, did she marry/have children?

What part of London did she move to and when?

As you want a look up for 1841, 1851 and 1861 census, have you found her on any census at all?

It seems that no-one is able to find her and it would be helpful if you could post any more info you have.

She definitely from Rochester which is in Kent.

Thanks

Is this your Charlotte?

Charlotte LING
Birth Year
Birthplace Rochford, Essex, England
Age 41
Occupation Cook
Marital Status U
Head of Household Jane TOPPIN
Relation Serv

Dwelling Brierley
Census Place Putney, Surrey, England

Did your Charlotte marry? If so can you please give details,

1841 ?

Carlotte Ling
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Gender: Female
Where born: Essex, England
Civil Parish: Rochford Hundred: Rochford
County/Island: Essex Country: England
Registration district: Rochford
Abraham Ling 44 Martha Ling 35
Emma Ling 15 Elizabeth Ling 13
William Ling 10 Henry Ling 8
David Ling 7 Carlotte Ling 4
Martha Ling

1851 possible

1851 England Census
about Charlotte Ling
Name: Charlotte Ling
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Gender: Female
Where born: Rochford, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Rochford
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: Rochford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Rayleigh
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 128
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Steward 36
Emma Ling 24
Henry Ling 18
David Ling 16
Charlotte Ling 12
Edward Ling 6

Andy