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Oh no Margaret! We must have missed that one. That would have saved me two headache tablets!

Ann x

But I had found him mistranscribed Bish in 1861 right at the beginning of the thread.

Wilma, just shot off to look at the original and nothing was coming up for John Bish in Colchester!! Rechecked your message and tried again and nothing.

I then did a search on Jane Sadler 23 up he came as John BIRTH!! on the index.

Annx

I just hope they lived happily ever after!

Well done you Wilma! I would probably still been here at midnight!


Thank you so much for your time and effort!

Annx

Rebecca is single on 1851 and 1861 census living with her sister

FOUND HIM!

1861 England Census
Name: John Bish
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Wix, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Colchester St Peter
Town: Colchester
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester Second Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members: Name Age
John Bish 45
Jane Sadler 23

Wilma, Is she single on both census? I have found a marriage of John Rist possibly to Mary green........I dont believe it! The two families that are intertwined pre 1800's are Greens & Rists, and now another Green!

Still no luck finding John Rist in 1861, where do these people vanish to!

Ann

No, not married on 1861 census. Perhaps they eloped to Shoreditch ... her long lost love

Marriages Sep 1863 (>99%)
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Beard Rebecca Shoreditch 1c 567

Rist John Shoreditch 1c 567

What are they doing in Shoreditch?!

Well thats too much of a coincidence! Wilma can you see if she is married or not on the image?

Ann

1861 England Census
Name: Rebecca Beard
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Coggeshall, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Colchester St Mary At The Walls
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Beard 60
Sarah Beard 58
Rebecca Beard 40
Rhoda Winfield 23

Look where she was born!

1851 England Census
Name: Rebecca Beard
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Coggeshall, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds St James
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bury St Edmunds
Sub-registration district: Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Beard 41
Mary A Beard 40
Rebecca Beard 36
Sarah Partridge 30
Harriet Ling 19

Oh, how sweet! Now to find proof ...

Looking at the 1841, there is a John Rist in the household of the family Beard.......also in the household is a Rebecca Beard.

There is a marriage on free bmd with John Rist and Rebecca Beard September/1863.......I wonder......love rekindled some 20 years later!

Annx

for reference

1871 England Census
Name: Rebecca Rish
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Gt Caggeshall, Essex, England
Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Colchester
Town: Colchester
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester Second Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
John Rish 55
Rebecca Rish 55
Eliza Clark 17

possibly

Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
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Oxbrow Rebecca Braintree 4a 619
Rust John Braintree 4a 619

Thank you Wilma!

Annx

Hi All, yes that is him, I have him on the 1871 in Colchester occupation Ironmonger........wife Rebecca, so looks like he remarried.

Ann, I usually bookmark everything...so keep key individuals seperate, its just my queer way of working!

Can anyone find him on the 1861..have tried all ways and still trying!

Margaret,

Did you receive the will this morning?

Ann

Deaths Mar 1857 (>99%)
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Rist Mary Colchester 4a 150