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James H. Norman married at Totnes 1866 Apr.May Jun. to Jane?? Can anyone help please?

Name: James H Norman
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Totnes
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 327
only other name on the page is
Adalina Coaker

If the record is there, there are only three Janes married in Totnes that quarter, Jane Adams, 5b 345, Jane C Cryer, 5b 297, Jane Prout, 5b 353. All the records for those three seems complete.

There is also a marriage for a James Norman Dec Q 1868, Totnes 5b 357 with a missing Groom, no bride called Jane though.

1861 this could be Adalina Coaker
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Dartmouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Dartmouth St Petrox
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

MARRIAGE
Marriages Dec 1868

NORMAN James Kempester Wareham 5a 631
Phippard Jane

Thank you for your overwhelmingly quick response.
In the 1881 census James H Norman b Kingswear Devon 1843 his wife was entered as Jane Norman b Brixham Devon 1845 living in East Stonehouse Plymouth. Perhaps she didnt use Adalina!!! The birth places of their children indicate they went to Canada between 1871 and 1881 another puzzle to solve!!! Happy hunting everyone

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Jas H Norman
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Date of Arrival: 12 May 1872
Vessel: Medway
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Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England; Plymouth, England
Roll: C-4527

(occupation - shipwright)

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Jane Weymouth
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Date of Arrival: 12 May 1872
Vessel: Medway
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Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England; Plymouth, England
Roll: C-4527

(stated on passenger list to be wife)

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Alice Weymouth
Gender: Female
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Date of Arrival: 12 May 1872
Vessel: Medway
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Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England; Plymouth, England
Roll: C-4527

???????????? what do you think

Wilma, Thank you so much for that info. It was James and Jane who went.
Plymouth was a close possible port. Alice Weymouth is a new name .I will look her up in censuses.

Wilma If you have passenger lists for Canada my grandfather Edmund Glanville Lowden went to Canada. He was born in 1871 at Meavy Devon. He went in about 1886approx. Thanks your a star.

Sandii,
not sure it's right. It says E C Lowden, no other information on passenger details other than 'own ticket to Toronto'.

Will see if I can find anything else.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: E C Lowden
Date of Arrival: 28 Feb 1886
Vessel: Vancouver
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Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: C-4512


Was he travelling with anyone?

Wilma, I think that could be him. ,as far as I know he was on hisown or

certainly not with any name I would recognise. His mother sent him out

there thinking he would have a better life, he was sent to a nunnery,so the

story goes , saw a nun having her hair shaved off , which frightened him and he came home again.! As for the C. could it have been a G ??

Thank you for your help.

for reference purposes, from ancestry

1881 Census

Name: James Hy. Norman
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingswear, Devon, England

Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: 5 Admiralty St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Shipwright

Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse

James Hy. Norman 38
Jane Norman 36 b.ca 1845, Brixham, Devon
Alice Norman 12 b.ca 1869, Kingswear
John Norman 8 b.ca 1873, Canada
Mary Norman 7 b.ca 1874, Canada
Eliza Norman 4 b.ca 1877, Dartmouth
Bessie Norman 1 b.ca 1880, Stonehouse




Do you think it possible that Adalina died, and James re-married to Jane???? Possibly in Canada??



sylvia

?????????? possible marriage to "Jane"


Marriages Mar 1879 (>99%)

Norman James E. Stonehouse 5b 441
WEYMOUTH Jane E. Stonehouse 5b 441



You probably need to get the birth certificates of one of the older children and of the youngest to double check.





sylvia

possible birth for Eliza ... Totnes is the registration centre that includes Dartmouth


Births Mar 1877 (>99%)

Norman Eliza Totnes 5b 194


and ??? Bessie's

Births Jun 1880 (>99%)

NORMAN Bessie E. Stonehouse 5b 328



sylvia

so James Henry Norman married an Adalina Coaker in June quarter 1866, registered Totnes


James Henry Norman goes to Canada, arriving 12 May 1872, accompanied by Jane Weymouth and Alice Weymouth, born ca 1869.

James Henry Norman married Jane Weymouth March qt 1879.





what happened to Adalina????



sylvia

Thank you Sylvia for your help and interest, I will try and find Adalinas death in BMD records.

Do you have Edmund Lowden birth index.
Only one i can see Registered 1870 Leeds

wonder if he is a relative?

Edmund Glanville Lowden 1908 Apr-May-Jun Devonport Devon

??death index for them both
Edmund Lowden abt born 1871 died1871 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
View Record
Edmund Glanville Lowden abt born 1908 died 1908 Devonport Devon

Sandii

I haven't been able to find Adalina's death on freebmd or on ancestry ............ although I haven't looked at the Complete Index on ancestry.


I suspect that James and Jane did not marry until 1879 because Adalina was still alive .......... divorce was very difficult and expensive in those days.


Incidentally, did you notice that if that 1861 Census is correct for Adalina, she was only about 16 or 17 when she married James.


sylvia

Edmund Lowden is registered as Edmon. Glanville Lowden Sep.1871.

Tav. 5b 347 He died in OCT. 1934.

Thanks for helping jansmith