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I was explaining why I wanted help and to see if you had a heart which you clearly don't. I gave the info as and when I received it through speaking to 2 different people over the phone. I am seeing what I can find out before I buy any certs. Why should I consider you when you have been so rude? People had done searches into Frederick Stanley Butcher and I was asking about her just Bert and Emily Gates. My nan believes that Daisy had more siblings than were found.
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By the way, I have seen a copy of Frederick Stanley Butcher's birth certificate and it says Woods not Wood. Just to inform you I have sent in an email of complaint about you.
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EvieBeavie, the reason why I thanked them has nothing to do with you it was due to the fact that they have found the right info. I don't know why you put the reply to what I wrote on the other post here. I did not mean professiona in the sensethat this is paid work, I meant it to mean that they have replied and done a good job of finding out the info I asked for. I did not fail to co-operate or have a lack of effort as I have been spending months on this now. I gave all the info I had in order to help. I know that I made a mistake at the beginning of this thread which was an accident but I shouldn't have to justify myself to you. I know I should purchase certs for more info on Frederick Stanley Butcher but I was asking about Bert and Emily Gates and they won't appear on those certs.
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I would just like to say thank you to the very polite replies from catherineand tanita - they have been very professional andpolite with their responses. They have made 2 people who are dying of cancer very happy.
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Edmund and Eliza in 1881:-
Name: Edmund James Wood
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Gravesend
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 3 Clifton Grove
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Sawyers

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund James Wood 26
Eliza Jane Wood 23
Rose Emily Mary Wood
Rose Harriett Freeman 19 -Visitor born: Malling, Kent (name should probably Foreman so possible sister of Eliza)
Henry Wood 22 - Lodger (possible brother of Edmund?)
Elizabeth Wood 23
Henry Wood

so there was another child but...............
Deaths Sep 1881 (>99%)
WOOD Rose Emily M 0 Gravesend 2a 237

Looks like she was an only child:-
1901
Name: Daisy Wood
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Northfleet
Ecclesiastical parish: Perry Street All Saints
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 25 Nelson Road

Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Strood
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 147
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Wood 46 - General Labourer
Eliza Wood 48
Daisy Wood 16
Mary Foreman 77
Janet Calder 11 - Visitor born: Gravesend, Kent

This looks to be her in 1891:-

Name: Daisy Wood
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England
25 Nelson Road
Civil Parish: Northfleet
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Perry Street
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Strood
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Wood 36 born: Gravesend, Kent - General Lab.
Eliza Wood 33 born: West Malling, Kent
Daisy Wood 6
Mary Foreman 66 born: Teckham, Kent - (Mother in Law)

The marriage cert. will confirm fathers name!
and the Gravesend birth record for Daisy now seems to be the correct one.

This is a possible marriage for Daisy's parents:-

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
Foreman Eliza Epsom 2a 23
Wood Edmund Epsom 2a 23
The district Epsom is in the county of Surrey

There's also a Daisy Wood born in reg.district W. Ashford:-
Births Mar 1884
Wood Daisy Elizabeth W. Ashford 2a 790

but as the marriage took place in reg.district Gravesend it could be this one:-

Births Dec 1884
Wood Daisy Gravesend 2a 498

and there are some others so need to know her birth place to go back for her too.

there is this record for Frederick Wm. Butcher which could be him as the county is Kent:-

Births Dec 1883 (>99%)
BUTCHER Frederick William E Ashford 2a 767

but you need the proof from the census to confirm.

Best to start by taking a look at the 1911 census to see exactly who is living with Frederick and Daisy. This will show you the names and places of birth of all the occupants and their relationship to each other.
When you know where Frederick Wm. and Daisy were born you can find a birth record which will enable you to go further back with more certainty.

I'm looking for both living relatives and ancestors.

There is also this one born after the 1911 census:-

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Butcher Rolande B Wood Bromley 2a 990

When you say you are looking for relatives, do you mean living or ancestors?

What I am looking for is anyrelatives of Frederick Stanley as his daughter (my nan) has asked me to do this. Frederick Stanley was married to Inez Gladys Agatha Maud Loring. I have found lots of her relatives. I know that his parents were married in December 1903. I know that Frederick William's father was called William and that Daisy Wood's mother was called Eliza Foreman.

Probable 1911:-

First names FREDERICK WILLIAM
Last names BUTCHER
County Kent
Residence BROMLEY
Other person first names DAISY

HOUSEHOLD BUTCHER FREDERICK WILLIAM M 1883 28 Bromley Kent
HOUSEHOLD BUTCHER DAISY F 1884 27 Bromley Kent

There looks to be other children:-
HOUSEHOLD BUTCHER WINIFRED DAISY F 1910 1 Bromley Kent
HOUSEHOLD BUTCHER EDDY M 1906 5 Bromley Kent

but best pay to view to see exactly who is in the household and their relationship.

The marriage:-

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
<<<<BUTCHER Frederick William Gravesend 2a 1180
RITCHIE Jessie Gravesend 2a 1180
<<<<WOOD Daisy Gravesend 2a 1180
Wood Samuel James Gravesend 2a 1180

The district Gravesend is in the county of Kent

Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
BUTCHER Frederick Stanley Bromley 2a 519

any idea what year the parents were born and where?

What is the Surname?

I'm looking for relatives of my great grandfather who was born on 23rd august 1904 at Bromley? His parents were called frederick william and daisy woods.
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