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Could someone please look at original 1871 census

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 18 Apr 2009 19:50

I visited the library this morning to print off some census for one part of my family but would appreciate it if someone could look at the original please.

Frederick Goodwin born c1853 Meopham Kent.

RG10 ; Piece; 896; Folio:73; Page: 17; GSU roll 823485

The query is regarding 'Philish' Goodwin

I have taken this to be Phyllis, but cannot find a birth /marriage or any reference for her whatsoever.


I couldn't find the family on the 1861 to check her earlier..

Also, I think 'Edgara' is actually Edward.

Would be very grateful for some experienced eyes cast on this for me. Thank you.

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Apr 2009 20:05

Here it is on fmp.



GOODWIN, Thomas Head M 48 1823 Kent VIEW wheelwright and thatcher
GOODWIN, Martha Wife F 44 1827 Kent VIEW
VAUGHAN, Rosina Daughter-In-Law F 24 1847 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Thomas Son M 19 1852 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Frederick Son M 18 1853 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Edward Son M 16 1855 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Mitilda Daughter F 12 1859 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Charles Son M 10 1861 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, William Son M 6 1865 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Lewis Son M 8 1863 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Philish Daughter F 5 1866 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Walter Son M 3 1868 Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Richard Son M 1 1870 Kent VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
896 Folio:
73 Page:
17

Registration District:
North Aylesford Sub District:
Northfleet EnumerationDistrict:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Meopham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Fowlerstone, Meopham County:
Kent

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Apr 2009 20:07

Here's the 1861. I take it daughters in law are stepdaughters. Phyllis wouldn't be on this one.



GOODWIN, Tho Head Married M 38 1823 Wheelers Wheelwright Labourer
Meopham
Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Martha A Wife Married F 35 1826
Meopham
Kent VIEW
VAUGHAN, Rosenia Daughter In Law F 14 1847
Meopham
Kent VIEW
VAUGHAN, Maria Daughter In Law F 12 1849
Meopham
Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Thomas Son M 9 1852
Meopham
Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Fredrick Son M 7 1854
Meopham
Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Edward Son M 5 1856
Meopham
Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Matilda Daughter F 2 1859
Meopham
Kent VIEW
GOODWIN, Charles Son M 0 (3M) 1861
Meopham
Kent VIEW
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
473 Folio:
22 Page:
17

Registration District:
North Aylesford Sub District:
1 Northfleet EnumerationDistrict:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Meopham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Culverstone Green, Meopham County:
Kent

Liz

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 18 Apr 2009 20:09

Thank you Alviegal. Another reason why I am confused is that on the 1871 'Phlish' is aged 15 and now, I see that on FMP she is only 5!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Apr 2009 20:10

The original certainly looks like Philish.

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Apr 2009 20:11

Here's the 1881 where she is Priscilla!


1881 England Census
about Thomas Goodwin
Name: Thomas Goodwin
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Shorne
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 2 The Ridgeway
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Thatcher

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Goodwin 58
Martha A. Goodwin 55
Charles Goodwin 21
William Goodwin 17
Walter Goodwin 14
Priscilla Goodwin 15
Richard Goodwin 11 imbecile
James Goodwin 9

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Original
Record

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 18 Apr 2009 20:13

Thanks for the 1861, I struggled to find that this morning! I'll go and check births for 1866 ish now!

Mind you, I am now wondering if this is Pricilla who appears in the 1881 aged 15. Possibly another mistranscription??

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 18 Apr 2009 20:15

You took the words right out of my mouth!!

Many thanks, I am so grateful as this helps me to fit the family together and I can stop looking for the non-existent 'Philish' !!!

GaryOnTheAlgarve

GaryOnTheAlgarve Report 18 Apr 2009 20:15

had a look at original, hard to read, but would say it was edward not sure about Philis, can email you copy if you pm your email address

Gary

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 20:15

Goodwin Priscilla N. Aylesford 2a 366

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 18 Apr 2009 20:18

Thank you Gary and Rose. It all helps to fit things together. I was beginning to wonder if the enumerator was either inebriated or had a slight speech impediment. Now I think he was just hard of hearing!!

Very grateful for all efforts.

Julie

Julie Report 18 Apr 2009 20:20

Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
Goodwin Priscilla N. Aylesford 2a 366


Meopham comes under N.Aylesford

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Apr 2009 20:21

Could she be Priscilla? There's this one:
Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
Goodwin Priscilla N. Aylesford 2a 366

(N. Aylesford covers Meopham.)

K

K Report 18 Apr 2009 20:25

think it may be
Goodwin Priscilla N. Aylesford 2a 366
b jul/aug/sep 1866
Had a look on Ancestory - image not very clear but I think she is 5 not 15 years old. Alviegal's response seems to confirm this.

also 1861 census
Name: Thos Goodwin
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Martha A Goodwin
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Roseniah Vaughan
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Maria Vaughan
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Thomas Goodwin
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Spouse's Name: Maria
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Fredrick Goodwin
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Edward Goodwin
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Matilda Goodwin
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Charles Goodwin
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

K

K Report 18 Apr 2009 20:25

think it may be
Goodwin Priscilla N. Aylesford 2a 366
b jul/aug/sep 1866
Had a look on Ancestory - image not very clear but I think she is 5 not 15 years old. Alviegal's response seems to confirm this.

also 1861 census
Name: Thos Goodwin
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Martha A Goodwin
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Roseniah Vaughan
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Maria Vaughan
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Thomas Goodwin
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Spouse's Name: Maria
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Fredrick Goodwin
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Edward Goodwin
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Matilda Goodwin
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Name: Charles Goodwin
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Martha A
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 18 Apr 2009 20:26

Sorry, Margaret - almost missed you, thanks for looking for me. I've just noticed that poor little Richard is registered as an Imbecile - what a shame. Mind you, Martha was still producing offspring well into her 40's!!! Rather her than me!

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 18 Apr 2009 20:29

Gosh - I've only just turned my back for a minute and there's more helpful info. Thank you EVERYONE!! Off to sort out my tree.