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I've had a good look for Susan and a possible marriage to Andrew, and I'm stumped!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing I can think is that Susan wasn't "free" to marry Andrew????


Dee x

This is Mary A, I live in Lincolnshire, so I think on the 881 census it should have stated her birth place was Boston and not Belton. Belton is a small village just outside of Grantham, about 35 miles from Boston.


1861 England Census
about Mary A Ellis
Name: Mary A Ellis
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Boston, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Boston
Town: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Boston
Sub registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 212
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Ellis 30
Hannah Ellis 7
Mary A Ellis 5
Mary Ann Vox 60



And as for Marion, well I think there ay have been a name switch/change.

Possible first marriage;


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
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BROWN Andrew Doncaster 9c 756 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ellis Marion Doncaster 9c 756 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HARLAND Thomas Doncaster 9c 756
Walker Elizabeth Doncaster 9c 756



1871 England Census
about Marion Ellis
Name: Marion Ellis
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Booton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Doncaster
Town: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Doncaster
Sub registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
David Williams 39
Mary A Williams 40
Hannah Ellis 16
Marion Ellis 14
Robert D Williams 13
Clara Ellis 9
Elisabeth J Williams 5
Edward Ellis 5
Ada Williams 11 months



Dee x

Hi Lynn,

Still digging, not sure if you have this 1;


1871 England Census
about Andrew Buser
Name: Andrew Buser
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George F
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester
Civil Parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
George F Buser 57
Eliza Buser 55
Betsey Buser 21
William Buser 17
Andrew Buser 14
Alfred Buser 12


Dee x

Yes thats the family Dee .. Selina was the daughter MARY ANN GIFFIN [ NEE BROWN] ..Andrews brother

just for ref;


1881 England Census
about Andrew Brawn
Name: Andrew Brawn
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Corporation St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Railway Coach Body Maker

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Brawn 24
Mary Ann Brawn 24


Dee x

Hi Lynn,

This is him,

1891 England Census
about Andrew Brown
Name: Andrew Brown
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Coach body maker

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Griffin 55 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Sister
Selina Griffin 30 (Should be Selina Ross, widow)
Andrew Brown 35
Sarah J Johnson 15


He's a widower now, so I'll have a dig about.


Dee x

I would love some help with Andre !! he was born about 1857 in Leicester [Alfreds brother] ..he is on the 1881 married to a Mary Ann?? on the 1911 he is in London married to Susan born Lewisham!..can't find either of the marrriages that would fit

Have you got all Alfreds siblings???

1861 England Census
about Andrew Brown
Name: Andrew Brown
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George T
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
George T Brown 47
Eliza Brown 45
Mary A Giffin 25
Francis Brown 23
Valentine Brown 21
George T Brown 18
Eliza Brown 15
Winefred Brown 12
Betsy Brown 10
William Brown 8
Andrew Brown 4
Alfred Brown 2
James Brown 3 Mo
Eliza Giffin 9 Mo <<<<<<<<< Visitor Born London.




Dee x

Would you like me to look for Andrew???


Dee x

Thank you so much for all the info Dee a great .help ..now for Alfreds brother Andreww.agh!! will it never end !!

I think this maybe the mother with her parents;


1871 England Census
about Elener Franck Knight
Name: Elener Franck Knight
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
George Knight 44
Ann Knight 44
Mary Ann Knight 17
Sarah Elizebeth Knight 15
Elener Franck Knight 13
Kate Leistra Knight 9
Charles Henry Knight 7
Ada Anne Knight 5
George James Knight 3
Flora Emily Knight 1
Wm Edward Thorpe 14
William Hatham 20



Dee x

In 1901 the address is;

342 Ta???? Rd South ????

In 1891;

105 Noble Street.



Dee x

1881 England Census
about Alfred Brown
Name: Alfred Brown
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Turner
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: 29 Upper Charles St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Warehouseman

Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Turner Brown 67
Eliza Brown 65
Alfred Brown 22
Frances Ellen Brown 22 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Frank Griffin 19


Dee x

Thanks for that ..any address? cheers Lynn

Possible parents marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Bailey William Leicester 7a 265
Brown Alfred Leicester 7a 265 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HAWLEY Eliza Leicester 7a 265
Knight Frances Eleanor E Leicester 7a 265 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<



Dee x

1891 England Census
about Eleanor Brown
Name: Eleanor Brown
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Frances E
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Brown 32
Frances E Brown 33 <<<<<<<<Frances Eleanor????
Eleanor Brown 3


Dee x

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1901 England Census
about Eleanor Brown
Name: Eleanor Brown
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester Formerly St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester St Paul
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 65
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Brown 42
Eleanor Brown 43
Eleanor Brown 13

Please can anyone find Eleanor Brown she was born about 1888c Leicestershire ..father Alfred ..thanks !