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Sorry to sound like an idiot. but I am new to this. do you mean I will have to travel to Cheshire to look at the records?
Wendy

You really need a trip to the records office and a trawl through the registers to find out who Liz was, working backwards from the baptism of the two kids that we seemed to have found. If the kids were illegitimate there may be some Bastardy Bonds available at the records office where the father had to support them in some way.

this is really confussing, on christening he was crank, then in 1841 his farrell, then in 1851 is back to crank and on his marriage cert he states his father is Thomas Thean. so would you say his mother had him out of wedlock and was her name elizabeth crank, if so can not find anything on her either,

Possible 1841


1841 England Census
about Abel Farrall
Name: Abel Farrall
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Rostherne
Hundred: Bucklow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Altrincham
Sub registration district: Knutsford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Farrall 60
Elizabeth Farrall 44
Abel Farrall 10

Thanks for your help Heather, I still can not find anymore info. The christenings only state mother,s name. so Im absolutly lost now. I've been looking for the past 2 days and can find no more info on Abel or his mother. looks like my search ends here for my ancesters.
Unless you can give me any further help or tips.
Thanks
wendy

Both of those are on ancestry Margaret and already given to the OP

His birth on BVRI:

CRANK, Abel Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1 Jan 1832 Recorded in: Over, Cheshire, England
Collection: St Chad
Mother: Elizabeth CRANK
Source: FHL Film 1751483 Dates: 1816 - 1833

And his sister:

CRANK, Elizabeth Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 27 Dec 1829 Recorded in: Over, Cheshire, England
Collection: St Chad
Mother: Elizabeth CRANK
Source: FHL Film 1751483 Dates: 1816 - 1833

You saw this?

Name: Abel Crank
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1 Jan 1832
Christening Place: Over, Cheshire, England
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Crank

work on that

Im off to bed, nite.:)

I'm Useless, I just can not find anything on his mother or him.
Also on the 1851 census he has a sister elizabeth age 6

Looks like he may have had a sister:

Elizabeth Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
27 DEC 1829 Over, , Cheshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Mother: Elizabeth Crank

Its a very good name to follow, ancestry have parish records back to 17th century on that name in the right area.

Check for deaths of ann crank or her remarriage after he died. - look at freebmd.org

Im wondering if Thean is possibly a mistrans or wrongly read Farran? - long shot though

Check above! 1851 and also his baptism in 1831 - it appears he is illegitimate.

Ann is there is 1871 so when does the child turn up with grandad?

Thanks for the help, its funny that he listed his father as Thomas Thean?
also what everhappen to Ann? it looks like Ann father bought up their daugthter Sarah

1851, mistransed again Interesting, head is given as Elizabeth Farran, widow, so may be his mum did marry.

Name: Abel Frank
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Over, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Nether Knutsford
Town: Knutsford
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Altrincham
Sub registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 10d

Household schedule number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Farran 51
Abel Frank 21
Elizabeth Frank 6
Thomas Taylor 70

1871 - mistransribed (His baptism and death in my post above)

Name: Abel Crante (Foreman, Highway)
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Over, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Poulton With Fearnhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Padgate Christchurch
Town: Poulton With Fearnhead
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Warrington
Sub registration district: Rixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107a
Household Members:
Name Age
Abel Crante 36
Ann Crante 26
Willia Crante 1

Ive submitted a correction for the 1871

in 1861 it says agricultiral labourer on marraige cert labourer

And he gives his father as Thomas Thean? on his marriage certs. What is Abels occupation.


Name: Abel Crank
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1 Jan 1832
Christening Place: Over, Cheshire, England
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Crank


Name: Abel Crank
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 46
District: Altrincham
County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 169

1871 - mistransribed

Name: Abel Crante
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Over, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Poulton With Fearnhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Padgate Christchurch
Town: Poulton With Fearnhead
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Warrington
Sub registration district: Rixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107a
Household Members:
Name Age
Abel Crante 36
Ann Crante 26
Willia Crante 1

Help I am trying to find info on me great great grandfather Abel Crank.
I found 1861 census married to Martha and had daughter Mary S. I have married certificate for him marrying my G G Grandmother Ann Sudworth in 1870 it states that he is 35 a widower living in Poulton and his father's name Thomas Thean (deceased). I then have my great grandmothers married certificate in 1893 Sarah Ellen Crank which says he his deceased.
I can not find any mention before 1861 of him and can not find any info on either him or Ann after.
Any help would be greatfully appriciated

Thanks
Wendy