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Ronelda born Inverness 02/03/1879 parents Evan and Annie ms Fraser. Married Duncan Robertson Perth 31/12/1909 last known information was c1919 running Ardeonaig Temperance Hotel, Kenmore.

I'm nudging this up and copying another thread I also posted just in the hope that someone may be able to help


Trying to Find: Duncan Robertson born Kenmore Perthshire c1869
Aileen 15th May 2009 12:03

Trying to find information regarding Duncan and his wife Ronelda Mc/MacDonell. The couple married in Perth in 1909 and the last record I can find for them is around 1918 when they ran the Ardeonaig Temperance Hotel at Kenmore. I cannot find death records for Ronelda in Scotland or England and I have spent a great deal on credits for Scotland'sPeople looking at possibles for Duncan. Can anybody help?

Aileen,

have you considered this death??

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Ronalda Robertson
Name: Ronalda Robertson
Death Registration Month/Year: 1963
Age at death (estimated): 85
Registration district: Ploughley
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1622
1st quarter



Dee x

The spelling of her maiden surname changes on the different census records.

1881
Name: Ronelda Macdonell
Birth: abt 1879 - Invss
Residence: Inverness, Inverness, Invernessshire


1891
Name: Ronelda McDonald
Birth: abt 1879 - Inverness
Residence: Perth East Church, Perthshire


She is not with her family in 1901 and I can't see a Ronelda anywhere. Did she have a middle name that she may have been known by?


What name did she use on her marriage to Duncan please?

That looks really hopeful Dee, well done!

Thank you so much.....this looks so promising.....I will order the certificate later tonight......and try for Duncan in England too

She's with her sister in 1901;

1901 Scotland Census about Ronalda Mcdonell
Name: Ronalda Mcdonell
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship: Sister-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Inverness
Registration Number: 479
Registration district: Falkirk
Civil parish: Falkirk
Town: Falkirk
County: Stirlingshire
Address: 4 Forth St
Occupation: House Rewesey Maid
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 70
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1901_156
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Swanstine 28
Jamesina Swanstine 27
Annie F Swanstine 1
Ronalda Mcdonell 21


Hopefully rootgatherer, Aileen will be able to tell us if it is the correct death when she receives the death cert.

Aileen when was Duncan born?


Dee x

Rootgatherer....thank you too....both these records are for my aunt... the name chages with almost every record....I have birth and marriage certs

Birth is Ronelda MacDonell.....which is the correct spelling the marriage is Ronaelda McDonell which is wrong on both names.
I have also seen the surname spelt McDonnell and MacDonnell

edit......the census has Ronelda's brother in law's surname wrong too it was actually Swanston.....lol

Duncan was born in Kenmore Perthshire on 04/02/1869......I know all the history for him until 1920....when they sold Ardeonaig

A possible death for Duncan, unfortunately there seem to be quite a few Duncan Robertsons, did he have a middle name?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Duncan Robertson
Name: Duncan Robertson
Death Registration Month/Year: 1937
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Windsor
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 465
2nd quarter

Thank you BatMansDaughter...unfortunately he didn't have a middle name. I have had a look and you are correct there are quite a few possibles for Duncan....I will wait and see if Ronelda's death cert gives any further information before I try to find which is the most likely. I wish English records were the same as Scottish ones and I could view on-line any before 1958 as I'm sure Duncan would have pre deceased Ronelda

Aileen, I am just wondering if Ronelda moved to England to live with some of her married children after Duncan died? Do you know how many children (if any) they had please? Is it possible to look for marriages of their children to get an idea of an area?

Hi Rootgatherer,
I don't know of any children.....that is something I hope to find out... I have checked Scotland'sPeople for possible children but found nothing that grabbed my attention. I had hoped to go to the registrar's today but that has been postponed due to circumstances.

*UPDATE*

I received the death certificate today..

Ronelda Robertson died 05/02/1963 widow of Duncan Robertson....so it has to be her (I wish English certs gave as much info as Scottish ones)....cert was signed by Duncan Robertson (son). Now I will have to try to find him....which wont be easy as I have no idea when or where he was born....

Aileen - was there an address for Duncan the son on Ronelda's death certificate please?

Hi Rootgatherer

there was an address, same for both Ronelda and her son. 22 Sherwood Close, Launton.
I went there virtually with Google but it appears to be a new housing estate which looks more recent than 1963

Hi Aileen,

excellent news on the death cert and I did wonder about a possible death for the son.......... this maybe nothing but on the other hand it maybe worth checking it out....

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Duncan Ronald N Robertson
Name: Duncan Ronald N Robertson
Birth Date: 28 Aug 1914
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 2002
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Oxfordshire
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Register number: J01D
District and Subdistrict: 6951J
Entry number: 299

Named after his mother and father???


Now there is a corresponding birth in Scotland that ties in with this chap and it was registered in Killin...... which would tie in with Kenmore??. If you were to go onto Scotlandspeople it may rule him in or better still confirm if my gut feeling is correct??

AND............ there is a marriage for the above chap in 1943 in Oxford and the registration district is Ploughley, where Ronelda's death was registered!!!


Dee x

That looks really hopeful Dee - well done! Just a pity that only births prior to 1909 are available to view online at Scotlandspeople so it means ordering the certificate and waiting .................

Me again,

just found this;

British Phone Books, 1880-1984 about D R N Robertson
Name: D R N Robertson
Address: West End Fm.West End,Launton...
Exchange: Bicester
Directory title: Banbury Jun
Publication Year: 1982
Directory County: Oxford
Page Number: 252

Hi rootgatherer,

oops didn't realise that about Scotlandspeople........ bit of a downer there, but I really think this maybe the son, firstly Killin is the right area for is birth reg, marriage in the death reg of Ronelda and then Launton for the area living in, what do you think??


Dee x