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What a mess...Please help me

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Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 14:11

Please someone be kind enough to help me..I am getting in such a mess with my families..
John Barrow married
Jane Ann Potts....1895....John was my grandmothers brother.
Margaret Barrow..married
John Markham 1891.
then....
1925
Ethel Barrow married
Frank W Markham.
I thought it was hard enough without this..What a pickle
Please sort it for me
Christine

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 4 Apr 2009 14:14

Christine,
what is is that you are actually trying to sort out ? ?

ShimmsRedRoseAndMistletoe

ShimmsRedRoseAndMistletoe Report 4 Apr 2009 14:17

Hi Christine

Can see you're in good hands with Julie who's here to help you.

Good luck hun.

xxx Shimms xxx

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Apr 2009 14:25

Is Ethel Barrow the daughter of John Barrow & Jane Ann Potts? And is Frank W. Markham the son of John Markham & Margaret Barrow? And are John & Margaret Barrow siblings? If so, you have first cousins marrying. No big deal! It happened all the time.

Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 14:28

Sorry I am not good at this especially this family.
My G grandparenys
William and Sarah Barrow had many children(sarah stonehouse)
Mary
Margaret
William
Thomas
Robert
John
Lily
Jane
Sarah
I have been trying to find marriages for them all...Brilliant I thought
but then how come 2 barrows married 2 Markhams....in quite a large gap of time..
I have bitten off more than I can chew






Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 14:33

Hi Margaret..
Thankyou..The way you have worded it is great,but I have been in a right old sweat...the Barrow family have been hard for me, but now I have started on the children...Its beyond me,
Thankyou all
Christine

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 4 Apr 2009 14:35

To find out who these people were, and if they were related, you would have to buy their marriage certificate to find their fathers names.

Even then you really need their birth certificates to find out their mothers names to know, 100%, if related.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Apr 2009 14:44

1901 census
Front Row, Coxhoe, Durham
William Barrow, head, 58?, coal miner, born Hutton Henry
Sarah, wife, 54, born Fishburn
William, son, 25, coal miner, born Trimdon
Thomas, son, 24, coal miner, born "
Robert, son, 21, coal miner, born Wingate
Jane, dau, 17, born "
Sarah, dau, 15, born "
Lilly, dau, 11, born "
John, son, married, (can't make out age), coal miner, born Trimdon

Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 14:44

Thanks Julie,
Its getting quite expensive now...I found out the other day that one of my Barrow relatives had 13 children!!!!
Many thanks to you all..
A WASHED OUT Christine.

Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 14:47

Thankyou Margaret..thats them bless them..
Oldest girls were married and left by then.
Cheers
Christine

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 4 Apr 2009 14:48

if Edith is their daughter, then she was born after 1901...

1901 England Census about John Barrow
Name: John Barrow
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane A
Gender: Male
Where born: Quarrington Hill, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Houghton Le Spring
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
Town: Houghton Le Spring
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: Miner
Occupation:

Registration district: Houghton Le Spring
Sub registration district: Houghton le Spring
ED, institution, or vessel: 1

Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
John Barrow 30
Jane A Barrow 29
Sarah Barrow 6
Margaret Barrow 4
John Barrow 1 month

There were other births in Houghton Le Spring between 1901 & Hilda in 1913,( no mothers maiden name).. but not Ethel's.
Found these births... So possibly NOT John & Jane's daughter

Name: Hilda Barrow
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Potts <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
District: Houghton Le Spring
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 1077

Name: Jane A Barrow
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Potts <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
District: Houghton Le Spring
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 1083

Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 14:53

Julie thats brilliant..
I was looking on freebmd last night,and found a number of children..mother maiden name Potts
a Hilda that died as a baby born 1913
als a Mary 1912,
very sad

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Apr 2009 14:59

Do you have the 1911 census, Christine, to see if Ethel Barrow is the daughter of John Barrow & Jane Ann Potts and if Frank W. Markham is the son of John Markham & Margaret Barrow?

Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 15:13

This is what someone gave me once
Children of John and Jane
Sarah age 6 born 1895 ?
Margaret age 4 1897
John age ----1901..
I have ancestry until in the morning when I better cancel as its been on 14 day trial...I will be honest with you its the census I find hardest to get around on there,
What a let down I am

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 4 Apr 2009 15:27

John Barrow & Jane Ann Potts AND Margaret Barrow & John Markham were married in Houghton Le Spring.
BUT...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Ethel M Barrow
Name: Ethel M Barrow
Year of Registration: 1925
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's Surname: Markham <<<<<<<<<<< Frank W
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 422

???? Births ???
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Frank William Markham
Name: Frank William Markham
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 238

2 possibilities for Ethel...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Ethel May Barrow
Name: Ethel May Barrow
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 205

Name: Ethel May Barrow
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 218

Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 15:38

Oh Julie..What a to do..
Do you think the first Ethel might have died?..
Christine

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 4 Apr 2009 15:51

May be...

Or they could be from totally different familys.

Do you know if any of you family moved from Durham to Leicestershire around this time ?

These 2 may not be connected to your family at all.

Christine

Christine Report 4 Apr 2009 16:20

Hi Julie...
I really think its them,I have been searching for Barrows in Durham for A Long time...Found a poss one in Leeds.When I searched John and Jane last night I saw they had had many children...The first Hilda died and they named another child a few years later Hilda!! .
But now to see 2 Barrows Marry 2 different Markhams..and of course I know it goes on, But when you are me trying to do this its just too hard,
Maybe some of the family did move to Leicester..it would answer why I could not find them in Durham
Christine

Christine

Christine Report 5 Apr 2009 12:45

Thankyou so much for al that helped..this has played on my mind all night..I will have to send for some certs anyway I know that..
But thankyou so much
Christine