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Michelle

you now have
marriage of Thomas and Mary
birth of Thomas and Mary

1891 & 1901 census

You can see now how important it is to put down all the info that you have as we were looking in completely the wrong area.

Name: Mary Owens
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Longbenton
Ecclesiastical parish: Killingworth St Johns
Town: Dudley
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub registration district: Longbenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Owens 46 Heydrigg, Northumberland - confectioner
Mary Owens 16 - dressmaker
Charles Owens 8 Dudley, Northumberland
Quick Lowns 48 Boarder
Philip Smith 21
John Joyce 34



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4233; Folio 70; Page 8; GSU roll: 6099343.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Owens Mary Tynemouth 10b 226

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Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
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Owens Mary Tynemouth 10b 217

1891

Name: Thomas Armstrong
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Ryton, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Ryton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Cross
Town: Ryton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub registration district: Winlaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Armstrong 77 Walbottle, Northumberland
Jane Armstrong 68 Blaydon, Durham
Edward Armstrong 34 (imbecile)
Margaret Armstrong 38
Thomas Armstrong 29
John Armstrong 25
Joseph Armstrong 11 Grandson



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4190; Folio 85; Page 29; GSU

the 1901 census record posted by Portland Rose is the correct one as the address matches the one from the birth of their child
(Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4809; Folio: 169; Page: 3.)

So
Thomas was born 1863 Ryton Durham

Mary born 1875 Dudley Northumberland

lived in Seaton Delaval Northumberland NOT Seaton Cumberland

Births Jun 1862
ARMSTRONG Thomas Wilson Gateshead 10a 647

Rose

There's this Thomas and Mary in Seaton. Have you dismissed this one?

1901 England Census
Name: Thomas Armstrong
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ryton, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Seaton Delaval
Ecclesiastical parish: Seghill
Town: Seaton Delavel
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub registration district: Earsdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Armstrong 38 Miner
Mary Armstrong 26

Rose

Dancingdee,

That Thomas died.

Deaths Sep 1870
Armstrong Thomas Wilson 0 Tynemouth 10b 101

Rose

this is the adress

Hi I have her birth certificate it says her mother Mary Armstrong formerly Owens her father was Thomas Wilson Armstrong Coalminer the address is listed as 20 Askey Terrace West, Seaton Delaval

Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Owens Mary Tynemouth 10b 226

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Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
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Owens Mary Tynemouth 10b 217

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Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
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Owens Mary Elizabeth Tynemouth 10b 106
OWENS Mary Elizabeth Tynemouth 10b 168

Here's Thomas's birth:

Births Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Armstrong Thomas Wilson Tynemouth 10b 146

NB the 1901 census was taken on 31 MArch so maybe Mary was in hospital in labour

does the cert give the hospital name or was Eliz born at home?

does the birth cert give an address and occupation of Thomas or any other info

thankyou dancing dee for that iformation

yes i have i am on ancestry to and cant find them on there im missing something yes i have her birth certif she was born in seaton

and her parents are mary owens and thomas w armstrong

Here's the marriage

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Armstrong Thomas Wilson Tynemouth 10b 328
Chipchase Joseph Tynemouth 10b 328
Chipchask Joseph Tynemouth 10b 328
Owens Mary Tynemouth 10b 328
Stephenson Jane Ann Tynemouth 10b 328
Stephenson John Tynemouth 10b 328

Have you tried a search on this site to see if anyone else is looking for the family
Liz

This could be her father;


1901 England Census
about Thomas Wilson Armstrong
Name: Thomas Wilson Armstrong
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Bassenthwaite; Lake, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Kendal
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Kendal
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kendal
Sub registration district: Kendal
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Ann Harrison 43
William Nowell 72
Thomas William Harrison 40
Harold Cowperthwaite 41
Thomas Wilson Armstrong 19


He wasn't married though.


Dee x

can you clarify Elizabeths' maiden name
do you have her birth certificate ?

Hi my Grandmother on my dad's side was Elizabeth Owens armstrong born 01.04.1901 In Seaton, cumberland
she married my Grandfather John Hurst Heslop.
Her mother was Mary Owens her Father was Thomas Wilson Armstrong.
I haven't been able to find out anything about my dads mother or her family at all.

i was woundering if anyone can help[