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Tilden Christman Birth/Marriage

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Amy

Amy Report 29 Mar 2009 09:48

Hi, i am trying to find the marriage of Tilden Christman. On the 1881 census he was 63, living with his brother in law John Haffenden. He is not on any previous census. I am trying to find his wifes name.
Thanks for any help given!

Other variations in 1891 are Tylden Christmas!

Amy

Amy Report 29 Mar 2009 10:40

Thanks Barbara. Who was Philalelphia married to?

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 10:42

1851

Name: John Haffenden
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Heathfield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Harty
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Sheppey
Sub registration district: Minster
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age

Tilden Chrisman 36 Mountfield, Land Steward (Baillif)
Anna Chrisman 26 Chelsea, Middlesex, Wife
John Haffenden 38 Heathfield, Brother in Law
Philadalpha Haffenden 42 Mountfield, Sister
Emma Rutland 15
James Port 26
James Gibson 28
George Brown 20
John Kennett 19

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 10:48

1841

Name: John Haffenden
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Heathfield
Hundred: Hawkesborough
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Occupation: Farmer

Registration district: Hailsham
Sub registration district: Hellingly
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

John Haffenden 30
Philadelphia Haffenden 30

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 10:50

1861

Name: Tilden Chrismas
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna H
Gender: Male
Where born: Mountfield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Headcorn
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Hollinbourn
Sub registration district: Headcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age

Tilden Chrismas 46
Anna H Chrismas 36

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 29 Mar 2009 10:56

This one fits the time period but wonder why they married in Chelsea?

Jill

Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%)
Ball Elizabeth Chelsea 3 48 Scan available - click to view
Chrismas Tilden Chelsea 3 48 Scan available - click to view
Crew Christopher Chelsea 3 48 Scan available - click to view
Haworth Anne Helen Chelsea 3 48 Scan available - click to view
Jex Maria Chelsea 3 48 Scan available - click to view
Parnell George Chelsea 3 48 Scan available - click to view
Richards Henry James Edmonton 3 48
West Robert Chelsea 3 48 Scan available - click to view
Wilsher Frances Mary Chelsea 3 48 Scan available - click to view

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 29 Mar 2009 10:57

John & Philadelphia:

Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
BUTLER Robert Battle 7 375 Scan available - click to view
CHRISMAS Philadelphia Battle 7 375 Scan available - click to view
DALLAWAY James Battle 7 375 Scan available - click to view
FULLER Caroline Battle 7 375 Scan available - click to view
HAFFENDEN John Battle 7 375 Scan available - click to viewAdditional information available - click on Info button
SMITH Harriet Battle 7 375 Scan available - click to view
STANDEN Isabella Battle 7 375 Scan available - click to view
WILLET James Battle 7 375 Scan available - click to view

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 29 Mar 2009 10:58

Well spotted Barbara - that explains the Chelsea link ...

Jill

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 29 Mar 2009 10:59

Philadelphia was Tilden's sister by the looks of things.

Jill

Amy

Amy Report 29 Mar 2009 11:01

Now i am really confused?!? I thought John married Lydia Hobden in 1845. I think Philadelphia is Tilden's sister. That would be why John lives with Tilden later in life. Did he marry twice? How can i find that out?
Thank you everyone for your info.

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 11:03

Wow - obviously my posts are invisible.

10.42 (Because she was born in Chelsea perhaps)
10.42 John Haffenden

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 29 Mar 2009 11:06

There is a marriage for John Haffenden and Lydia Hebden in 1842 which would have been after he married Philadelphia.

Bigmay? Different man?

You might need both marriage certs to work that one out for sure.

Or, look for John and Lydia Haffenden in censuses etc.

Jill

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 29 Mar 2009 11:08

Sorry David - missed the Chelsea ref ...

Hangs head in humble dejection.

Jill

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 11:14

1861

Name: John Haffenden
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Where born: Hurtsmonsen?, Surrey, England (Sussex)

Civil Parish: Leysdown
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Occupation: Farm Bailiff

Registration district: Sheppey
Sub registration district: Eastchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age

John Haffenden 49
Philadelphia Haffenden 54 Mountfield

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 11:16

There are several John Haffendens in the Sussex area at the time so probably another one.

Philadelphia isn't an uncommon name either.

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 11:19

Longshot

Deaths Mar 1881 Hollingbourn 2a 431

HAFFENDEN Philadelphia aged 79

Headcorn is in this District (1881 census)

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 11:26

Poss

ANN HELEN HAWORTH

Event(s):
Birth:
21 JUL 1825
Christening:
26 OCT 1825 Saint Luke, Chelsea, London, England


Parents:
Father: ADRIAN HARDY HAWORTH
Mother: ELIZABETH MARIA

David

David Report 29 Mar 2009 11:31

Hawarth, British Isles
Father: Adrian
Mother:Elizabeth Maria
Batch Number: C067053

CHARLES COOMBS HAWORTH Christening: 10 SEP 1820 Saint Luke, Chelsea, London, England
GEORGE HENRY HAWORTH Christening: 04 JAN 1822 Saint Luke, Chelsea, London, England
ELIZABETH MARIA HAWORTH Christening: 13 AUG 1823 Saint Luke, Chelsea, London, England

Amy

Amy Report 29 Mar 2009 12:30

Thank you everyone. I think it is clear that i need to start this again to make sure i have the correct people. There are alot of John's around the same era! Thank you
Amy