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We've hunted and hunted but cannot find, even in darkest Africa, the following gentleman, anyone got any clues?
He was last noted on the 1891 census and then - poof - he vanishes into thin air!!!

George Samuel Tiencken b 1 June 1874 in Bethnal Green, his father was Claus Tiencken b Germany in 1832 and Elizabeth Mary Margetts b1839.
In 1891 he was living with his mum and siblings in London and was a 16 year old ropemaker.
Carol

Do you know for sure that he survived after 1891?

Trouble is, with a name like that, he's probably been mistranscribed into something equally weird and wonderful!

Jill

Any idea how the name was pronounced?

what were the siblings names ? there are variants on the 1911 census

including a George Tincken....

This one may not be a connection at all but I'm wondering if they anglicised the name what they might have changed it to?

Marriages Mar 1895 (>99%)
Tinkler George Samuel Wandsworth 1d 787 Scan available - click to view

So dad died in 1895?

Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
Tienken Claus Bethnal Green 1c 717 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Mar 1895 (>99%)
Tiencken Claus 63 Poplar 1c 489 Scan available - click to view


Wonder where he was in the 1891?

Jill

His siblings were Charlotte 1877 (my brother-in-laws gt gr gran). Ann Elizabeth 1872, we've looked for varients, I've even looked over the pond - it's very frustrating!!
We think Claus was in Germany in 1891, he was a sugar refiner

The only thing I can think of is if you can find out where Claus originated from in Germany, that George may have gone to live and work there ...you might be able to find him in death records for that area?

Claus died in the Poplar Workhouse in 1895, and according to one site George was an inmate there in the same year! can't access the record tho!! My sister has given me this mystery to play with while I'm sat with my knee resting post-op and it's given me a headache to go with the sore knee!!!

Can't see Claus in the Poplar Union Workhouse records on Ancestry. I checked through the whole quarter in case he was mistranscribed.

Jill

this might be of interest re the workhouse

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Poplar/Poplar.shtml

I nearl missed this one.

Claus or Clonas was seperated from the family 1891

1891 census transcription details for: Poplar Union Workhouse, Workhouse In High St Poplar Ecclesiastical Parish
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 337 Folio: 81 Page: 19


Reg. District: Poplar Sub District: Poplar
Enum. District: 37 Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
Parish: Poplar City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Poplar
County: London, Middlesex
TINCKEN, Claus Pauper Married M 61 General Labourer
Germany

I have also been looking for George Samuel for a while. I have not found him in 1901. I wondered if perhaps he went back to Germany.
George Tincken 1911 looks promising.

I will PM you Charles to give access to my tree.

Other Tienckens born Germany in England 1871 Interesting because 3 of them are very close to each other.

1871 Address: Fairfoot Rd, Bromley St Leonard Middlesex
TIENCKEN, Henrich Head M 26 1845 Germany VIEW
TIENCKEN, Elizabeth E Wife F 24 1847 Middlesex VIEW
TIENCKEN, Hermann H Son M 2 1869 Middlesex VIEW
TIENCKEN, Florence M Daughter F 0 1871 Middlesex

1871 Address: Princes Sq, St George, East
TIENKEN, Martin Head M 32 1839 Germany VIEW
TIENKEN, Fanny Wife F 34 1837 Middlesex VIEW
TIENKEN, Albert Th Son M 0 1871 Middlesex

1871 Address: St George St, St George, East
GRIMM, Frederrick Head M 32 1839 Germany VIEW
GRIMM, Sophia Wife F 30 1841 Middlesex VIEW
GRIMM, Catherine Daughter F 4 1867 Middlesex VIEW
GRIMM, Phillis Daughter F 2 1869 Middlesex VIEW
BAUNGARTEN, John Lodger M 30 1841 Germany VIEW
GLEUSTEIN, Bernhard Lodger M 24 1847 Germany VIEW
LOCHMOND, Heinrich Lodger M 23 1848 Germany VIEW
SUBE, Christian Lodger M 24 1847 Germany VIEW
BEHNKE, Carl Lodger M 21 1850 Germany VIEW
DIOSCHER, Heinrich Lodger M 20 1851 Germany VIEW
QUADE, Heinrich* Lodger M 19 1852 Germany VIEW
TIENKEN, Tetman Lodger M 26 1845 Germany VIEW
TWINNS, Elizabeth Servant F 23 1848 Middlesex VIEW
GUTTERIDGE, Robert Lodger M 15 1856 Middlesex

1871 Address: Pennington St, St George, East
ROOST, Turkol* Head M 28 1843 Switzerland VIEW
ROOST, Marie Wife F 32 1839 Germany VIEW
ROOST, John George Son M 3 1868 Middlesex VIEW
ROOST, Anna Maria Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex VIEW
TINKEN, Martin Lodger M 24 1847 Germany VIEW
BRUNKHORST, Thees Lodger M 25 1846 Germany VIEW
ROSCHER, August Lodger M 22 1849 Germany VIEW
BORCHERS, John Lodger M 20 1851 Germany VIEW
BRANDSMUHL, Hermann Lodger M 10 1861 Germany VIEW
OERDING, Christian Lodger M 25 1846 Germany VIEW
GLUSTEIN, Friederick Lodger M 22 1849 Germany

and in 1881

1881 Address: 39, Bengeo St, West Ham
TIENKEN, Andreas Head Married M 36 1845 Laborer In Sugar Refinery
Hanover
Germany
TIENKEN, Margaretta Wife Married F 38 1843
Hesse
Germany
TIENKEN, Kate Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
St George
Middlesex
TIENKEN, Sophia Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
St George
Middlesex
WIEDEMEYER, Frederick Boarder Single M 35 1846 Laborer In Sugar Refinery
Bremen (N Brsh Sub)
Germany
PRIGGE, Henrich Boarder Single M 26 1855 Laborer In Sugar Refinery
Hanover
Germany
MC CAFFERTY, Phillip Boarder Single M 26 1855 Laborer In Sugar Refinery
Doning Gall
Ireland
GEAR, Christopher Boarder Single M 24 1857 Laborer (Unemployed)
Hanover
Germany

1881 Address: 60, St Leonards Road, Bromley
TIENKEN, Martin Head Married M 42 1839 Dyer
Germany
TIENKEN, Fanny Wife Married F 44 1837
Hammersmith
Middlesex
PECK, Sophia Mother In Law Widow F 82 1799
Fulham
Middlesex

1881 Address: 4, Ranwell St, Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow
TIENCKER, Clonas Head Married M 49 1832 Sugar Refiner
Germany
TIENCKER, Elizabeth Mary Wife Married F 42 1839
Greenwich
Kent
TIENCKER, Ann Elizth Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Mile End
Middlesex
TIENCKER, George Saml Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
TIENCKER, Charlotte A Daughter Single F 3 1878
Bethnal Green
Middlesex

1891 Address: 49, Monass Street, Bromley
TIENKEN, Martin Head Married M 52 1839 Sugar Baker
Germany VIEW
TIENKEN, Fanny Wife Married F 54 1837
Hammersmith
London VIEW
PECK, Sophia Mother In Law Widow F 92 1799
Fulham
London

1891 Address: 39, Benges Street, Canning Town, West Ham
TIENKEN, Andrew Head Married M 46 1845 Gas Worker
Hanover
Germany VIEW
TIENKEN, Margaretta Wife Married F 48 1843
Hessan
Germany VIEW
TIENKEN, Kathrina Daughter Single F 21 1870 Ladys Maid
Whitechapel
London VIEW
TIENKEN, Sophia Daughter Single F 20 1871 Tailoress
St George in the East
London VIEW
JAY, George Boarder Single M 35 1856 Coal Porter
Suffolk VIEW
CURTIS, George Boarder Single M 24 1867 Gas Worker
Slough
Buckinghamshire VIEW
BRAUNCHAW, Fred Boarder Single M 34 1857 Sugar Works
Germany VIEW
YOUNG, Philip Boarder Single M 45 1846 Gas Worker
Germany


With the common surnamr, proximity of location and common trade, there is apossibility that Martin and Andrew are both relatives. Andrew was born Hanover so that could be a good place to start

Carol.....I have checked the "Sugar Refiners" data base I have and there are a number of Tiencken surnames and variations on it...Tienjen being one of them...dont know if you want me to look for anything specific from iy...it does give the Origin of the person and also where other details can be located.