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As he can't be found with parents o the census, the only way to try to find his father is to buy the marriage cert.

He was still alive in 1911, born 1861 and living in Islington.

You could search Free BMD for his death.


http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Christine

Julie

YOu posted in your 1st post >> I have a lot of the Gladwin family but nothing on the Vernons, can anyone help please.

Then in your last one you say..>>>>Thanks every one, got a lot of this already <<<<

Bit unfair that

Thanks every one, got a lot of this already, except about the son William when he died in the army only knew he died in Belgium. Addresses and occupations are good but i still dont know who his parents where or if he had any siblings, also the date he died, looks like before 1917 when the son died. Does anyone know any of this. Julie

Longshot in 1881

Name: William Vernon
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Richmond, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: St Leaonard Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 14 Wenlock Road

Occupation: Excavator (Railway Labourer)

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub registration district: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Richard Sever 70
Cadetra Sever 35
William Mitchell 22
William Vernon 20

Perbody may be Peabody

1881

Name: Annie Peabody
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Peckham, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 25 Hanover Street

Occupation: Domestic Serv Out Of Situation

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Thomas Peabody 58 Northamptonshire, Brickmaker
Ann Peabody 52 Devonshire
Thomas Peabody 24
Joseph Peabody 23
Annie Peabody 20
James Hudson 18

Source Citation:
Class: RG11;
Piece: 217;
Folio: 68;
Page: 50;
Line: ;
GSU roll: 1341048.

1881 there is a student William Vernon and also at the college is a Eustance A W Ponsonby 17 Wondered if this was first wife.


1881 England Census
about William Vernon
Name: William Vernon
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: London ((Reading)), London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Batcombe
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: "The Rectory"
Education:

Occupation: Student

Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub registration district: Evercreech
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

1881 England Census
about Enstance A.W. Ponsonby
Name: Enstance A.W. Ponsonby
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Fairford Torquay, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Batcombe
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: "The Rectory"
Education:

Occupation: Student


They have all the places of birth crossed out and rewritten, Williams says Reading Berks which is Crossed out and London is put in. Eustance has Devonshire Torquay and thats crossed out too.

1901 visiting the Fielder Family

Name: Evelyn A Vernon
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Acton, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Winchelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Winchelsea St Thomas the Apostle
Town: Camber
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Yes, that makes sense, David.

William's first marriage:

Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Pebordy Annie Brentford 3a 79
Vernon William Brentford 3a 79

Perhaps 68 is the "Beer House".

I know my GG Grandparents had problems with their Pub and had to block some doors to make the two parts separate.

I noticed on the 1901 census William is living at 68 Rushey Green with servant Henry Haldo and visitor George Peacock.
Letitia is living at 66 Rushey Green with children Letitia, William and Victoria.
There is a double line between the 2 households.

Deaths Mar 1895 Lewisham 1d 942

Vernon Annie aged 34

Deaths Mar 1898 Lewisham 1d 776

Vernon Grace aged 14

Births Jun 1886 Brentford 3a 136

Vernon Evelyn Annie

Deaths Mar 1905 Lewisham 1d 642

Vernon Evelyn Annie aged 18

1891

Name: William Vernon
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Richmond, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
County/Island: London
Country: England

Occupation: Beer House Keeper

Registration district: Lewisham
Sub registration district: Lewisham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

William Vernon 30
Annie Vernon 30
Grace Vernon 7
Eva Vernon 4
Ann Pebordy 64 Exeter, Wifes Mother

Name: VERNON, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment)
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 26/10/1917
Service No: G/60977
Additional information: Son of Letitia Vernon, of 60, Albacore Crescent, Lewisham, London, and the late William Vernon.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 14 to 17 and 162 to 162A.
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL

For Ref.

1901 England Census
about William Vernon
Name: William Vernon
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Letitia
Gender: Male
Where born: Twickenham, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Lewisham
Sub registration district: Lewisham
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 188
Household Members: Name Age
William Vernon 40 beerhouse keeper
Henry Haldo 26
George Peacock 58
Letitia Vernon 32
Letitia Vernon 4
William Vernon 2
Victoria M Vernon 3/12

Do you have their marriage cert?

Christine

Is his fathers info on the marriage cert?

Marriages Dec 1895 Lewisham 1d 1824 S

Gladwin Letitia
Vernon William

From their M/C it will give you his dads name, also where have you his birth year from as the 1901 says born in 1861

1881

Walter GLADWIN Hd M Male 49 Evesham, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Caroline GLADWIN Wife M Female 49 Evesham, Worcester, England
Sarah A. GLADWIN Daur U Female 24 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Martha GLADWIN Daur U Female 18 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
Caroline GLADWIN Daur U Female 16 Brighton, Sussex, England Pupil Teacher
William GLADWIN Son Male 14 Deptford, Kent, England Scholar
Letitia GLADWIN Daur Female 12 Deptford, Kent, England Scholar
Walter GLADWIN Son Male 8 Woolwich, Kent, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 45 Hanover Rd
Census Place Plumstead, Kent, England
Family History Library Film 1341176
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0750 / 132
Page Number 35

can't find a record of William on the CWGC site

William Vernon born 1866 in Twickenham, Middlesex, married my gr.grandmother Letitia Gladwin at Lewisham in 1895.They had children Letitia Florence 1896, William 1898--1917, died Belgium , Flanders, Victoria May 1901 and Jessie 1904, my grandmother. All the children were born in Catford, kent. Does anyone know of Williams parents and did he have any siblings. I have a lot of the Gladwin family but nothing on the Vernons, can anyone help please.