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Is Carol still a member do you know Barry? If she is not a paying member I dont think she can see trees

I have attempted on 3 occassions to submit details of of Elizabeths's ancestors but there seems to be a glitch . I am trying again
Elizabeth's ancestors on my tree go back to AD193 to King Yngvi of Sweden by way of William the Conqueror and have given access to Carol who submitted the search for Elizabeth

Perhaps we should learn to curtsy as well - what an interesting post,
Liz

Have given you access to my tree which has ancestors of Elizabeth Plantagnet b 1460 Lumley back to Scandanavian royalty to King Yngvid of Sweden by way of William the Conqueror

as this is an old posting you may wish to send a messge to the original poster - she won't be looking for this now

Ann X

welcome to the boards by the way!!!! :-) :-)

Elizabeth Plantagenet who married Thomas Lumley was the daughter of Edward IV through one of his mistresses. He had 2 daughters called Elizabeth the other Elizabeth married Henry Tudor.

do we assume that this is a relation of yours and if so, do we call you M'Lady now?

Thank you, one and all for this information on Elizabeth Plantagenet.
It has certainly given me something to get my teeth into.
Very interesting indeed...!!

Edward had numerous mistresses, the most well-known of whom is Jane Shore.
He reportedly had several illegitimate children:


By Lady Eleanor Talbot
Edward de Wigmore (d. 1468). Reportedly died as an infant along with his mother.
By Elizabeth Lucy or Elizabeth Waite.
Elizabeth Plantagenet. Born circa 1464. She married Sir Thomas Lumley in 1477..
Arthur Plantagenet, 1st Viscount Lisle (1460s/1470s- March 3, 1542).
By unknown mother. Recent speculations suggests them as children by Lucy or Waite.
Grace Plantagenet. She is known to have been present at the funeral of her stepmother Elizabeth Woodville in 1492. No further information.
Mary Plantagenet. She married Henry Harman of Ellam, son of Thomas and Elizabeth Harman and widower of Agness.
A daughter said to have been the first wife of John Tuchet, 6th Baron Audley.

so Elizabeth was a bastard child!!

1455: Sir Thomas Lumley (d. 1485) is governor for life; he married the bastard daughter of Edward IV.

http://www.anusha.com/pafg879.htm

The above link may be of interest

Jackie

Thomas LUMLEY [SIR KNIGHT] [Parents] was born about 1460 in LUMLEY, Durham, England. He died 1487 in (vp). Thomas married Elizabeth PLANTAGENET about 1508 in , Yorkshire, England.

Elizabeth PLANTAGENET [Parents] was born about 1460 in , , England. She married Thomas LUMLEY [SIR KNIGHT] about 1508 in , Yorkshire, England.

They had the following children:

M i Richard LUMLEY was born about 1478 in Ludworth Tower, LUMLEY, Durham, England. He died 26 May 1510.
M ii John LUMLEY was born about 1479 in LUMLEY, Durham, England. He died after 1483.
F iii Ann LUMLEY [BARONESS OGLE]
M iv George LUMLEY was born about 1483 in LUMLEY, Durham, England.
F v Sibill LUMLEY
M vi Roger LUMLEY
F vii Elizabeth LUMLEY

love to know how he came back from the grave so quickly!!!!

Info on Elizabeth here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_of_York

Sir Thomas Lumley Knight Compact Disc #128 Pin #4612122 (AFN: 8MLR-H6) Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: abt 1460

Lumley,Durham,England
Death: 1487

England

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Parents
Father: Lord George Lumley Disc #128 Pin #4614542
Mother: Elizabeth Thornton Disc #128 Pin #4614543

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Elizabeth Plantagenet Disc #128 Pin #4612123
Marriage: abt 1508
Yorkshire, , , England
Birth about 1460
Death about 1487
Marriage 1508

Miracles do happen then :)

Thats an interesting one ANN OF GG.

Thomas was born c1460 died 1487 and then married in 1508.

SPOOKY.

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Elizabeth Thornton Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 1435 , Durham, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:

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George LUMLEY Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
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Marriages:
Spouse: Elizabeth THORNTON Family
Marriage:

George Lumley Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: About 1434 Warkworth, , , England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Thomas Lumley Family
Mother: Margaret Harrington

And Lumley castle is still there, it's a very nice hotel now

Julie