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Sorry to hear that, Evelyn. It just puts it all into perspective, really.
Thinking of you..

Sorry not to have been around for a while but Ron is not at all well, he has a nasty chest infection to add to all his other problems, the antibiotics dont seem to be helping a lot.
Thank you all for caring
Love to you all
Evelyn XX

Thinking of you both -- <3 <3 <3

Anybody heard how Ron & Evelyn are?
It´s been very quiet over the weekend.
Marion

Thinking of you both <3

Evelyn & Ron - take care <3 <3 ;-)

Evelyn and Ron <3 <3 <3

(((((Evelyn and Ron))))

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Dear Evelyn, it sounds as though you are having a really rough time at the moment. We are all thinking of you with love...... <3 <3 <3

Sorry to hear things aren't so good Evelyn <3

Still looking for Diane even if I don't post anything.................

Julie

Good Morning and thank you to everyone for your help.
Things are not too good at home at the moment, Ron is in a lot of pain and doctors and nurses seem to have taken over our lives but bless them they are so helpful and I am very grateful for their help.
I am also very grateful to all of my friends on this thread you have done so much hard work and still Diane (or whatever her name was) has not been traced.
Much love and thanks to you all
Evelyn XX

Spot on Cynthia-I like the analogy!

Even I can see what you are getting at there Julie :-D

How many more of these strange 'coincidences' will we encounter in this story???

I am beginning to think of it as the back of a tapestry - all muddle and confusion with links going every which way and yet seemingly nowhere.

Eventually you turn it over and see the picture on the other side and it all makes sense!

Can't wait to turn this story over....... :-D :-D

I keep thinking no it can't be these Macleod's but..................

I noticed in the 1901 census that Jan posted for Isabel Maud Ryder ( nee Macleod ) that they were in Sussex. The address was 119 Marina St.Leonards Hastings and that rang a bell. I read somewhere that Sarah Ferrand used to take her holidays there and I recalled I had found them in one of the census'. So here it is. 50 years apart!

Coincidence only?

1851 England Census about Emily Fenwick

Civil parish: Hastings St Mary Magdalen
Town: St Leonard
County/Island: Sussex

34 Marina

Sarah Ferrand 67
Emily Fenwick 32
Emily Fenwick 10
Christophine Fenwick 7
John Briggs 60
Willm Warrington 30
Henrietta Butter 30
Mary Forton 33
Eliza Maker 27
Emma Head

Have a look at Marina St.Leonards on google street map - some lovely buildings.

Isabel Maud's husband died in 1909 and she herself died in 1912 so the children were orphaned. Wills for both give the names George William Ryder and then later in 1929 Eileen Maud Bishop (nee Ryder)

Julie

Thanks for the census info Jan. That explains why I couldn't find his birth:

Births Sep 1908   (>99%)
Ryder  Patrick Macleod    Wandsworth  1d 683   

I think Isabel Maud must be Patrick Macleod senior's daughter by his first marriage so that's a good find.(ref my post on pg 60)

Familysearch has the family in Ontario Canada in 1881 so she is Maud?

  Household Gender Age
  Patrick McLeod M 37y
Jessie McLeod F 36y
Margerett Simpson F 14y
Gordon Simpson M 12y
Helen Simpson F 10y
Maud McLeod F 9y
Donald Mc McLeod M 5y
Patrick McLeod M 4y
John McLeod M 2y
Annie M. Morrow F 18y

As she married a Ryder in 1898 she is unlikely to be Diane's mother.

I did get rather excited about this next birth as I can find no further records for this child:

Births Sep 1904   (>99%)
MACLEOD  Doreen S    Wandsworth  1d 727   
McLeod  Doreen Shannon    Wandsworth  1d 727   

Again ref my post on pg 60 I wondered if she was born to Jessie Shannon Macleod before her marriage in 1906.

However, she could belong to one of the siblings. If only we could find her in 1911 we might be able to rule her out. She may be with the missing couple Patrick and Norah?

Cynthia don't worry- no need for you to do anything with this info-just trying to establish this family. You are doing enough already!

Julie

Lovely to hear from you Evelyn...I'm sure you do feel better having had your hair done....I know I do! <3



Thanks for that Tabitha.......I'm just trying to help the members work together on this mystery......it's really Fans baby as she was there at the 'birth' so to speak I'm just a midwife co-ordinator! :-D

Hello Everyone,thank you all for your efforts on my behalf, you are very kind and this old bird appreciates your help.
Have been to the hairdressers and feel almost human today.
Ron is having a reasonable day though has quite a bit of pain, caused I think by his cough.
I wish I could find the answer to Dianes roots or even get to know her real name because it really looks as if she was never DLM
Must get some work done, love to all
Evelyn XX

Had a look at the Leslie/ Macleod marriage that Vanessa found (thanks Vanessa)
Not looking hopeful.
1861 spelled Lesley shows he was born Ireland & she Scotland, but no area
1871 shows both b Scotland
1881 shows he born Antrim, she Scotland.
1861 they had a daughter Annie aged 3. No sign of her later & no other children
Pretty much impossible to trace Catherine back to Scotland as there are so many Catherine Macleods born within 5 years of this one.
John´s occ was stoker on steam vessel in 1861

Cynthia - stop being so modest - you work wonders on this thread

((((((((~~~~~~~~~~)))))))))) Hugs & waves for Evelyn