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Only 2 burials for the name Stephen Mitchell between 23/03/1541 & 22/11/1900. in PR for St Marys

19/03/1843 aged 60 (b. 1783)
20/03/1880 aged 74 from Horsham Union (b.c1807 could be your Stephen)

Wendy

Hi Graham - I have pm'd you

Wendy

Hi Wendy
The records you have found seem very promising, I do know that the Stephen Mitchell and Mary Barham in the 1851 census and 1841 are definately related to me.
You say you have the Parish CD of Horsham, where can I get a copy of the CD?
I appreciate all the help you are giving me.

Regards
Graham

Good morning

Also from Parish records.

Baptism 27/04/1806 Stephen Mitchell Father Stephen mother Hannah
Is this the right Stephen? If so here are his siblings baptisms?

28/11/1802 Hannah
22/05/1808 James
01/05/1815 Milford (m)

Possible mariage for Stephen and Hannah but this is a submitted entry on IGI and NOT from my parish records, no record at St Marys, Horsham.

03/12/1801 at Slaugham to Hannah Chandler

Possible baptism of Arthur re parish records:-
13/05/1894 Arthur - father not named - mother Mary Mitchell from 41 North Street, Horsham.

BTW there are masses of Jupps and Mitchells in Horsham my own Great grand mother was a Mary Jupp

Wendy

Excellent, Wendy.

I was trying to find baptism of Mary Barham in Horsham as records go back to the 1750s. Now we know she was married before.

This should give Graham a huge part of his family tree.

Ozi.

Hi Graham

From St Marys Parish Church Horsham (Parish Records)

Baptism 05/11/1825 Stephen - Father, see note Mother Mary Barham Note = The father is Stephen Mitchell, Mary being the wife of ****** BARHAM who was transported.

AND

Marriage 31/07/1833 Stephen Mitchell single to Mary Barham widow. Witnesses Stephen Dean, Ann Harold and R Collins.

Note R. Collins turns up as a witness at umpteen weddings and was, I guess, something to do with the church.

Marriage 01/03/1851 Edward Mitchell single to Rachel Miles single
Grooms father Stephen Mitchell a labourer. Brides father James Miles a labourer. Witnesses Richard miles and Maryann Miles.

There is also a Stephen Mitchell who marries on 11.03.1835 he ia a draper aged 35 fathers name John a shoemaker. He married Ann Thompson single aged 35 her father Rueben a house decorator. Witnesses were Caleb Mitchell and Ester Mitchell.

William Barham married Mary Jupp 11.09.1821 Witnesses were Thomas Smith, Ann Dinnage, Mary Smith.

My maiden name was MItchell and my paternal side were/are from Horsham which is why I bought the parish records CD

Wendy

Sorry I was called away.

Sylvia I missed young Stephen's death. There's so many Mitchells in the Horsham district it's confusing.

Ozi.

ooopp sorry


there are indeed TWO Stephen Mitchells marrying a Mary Barham in Sussexx ...... and both are EXTRACTED records



1. STEPHEN MITCHELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 10 AUG 1825 Petworth, Sussex, England

2. STEPHEN MITCHELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 31 JUL 1833 Horsham, Sussex, England




so are you certain that you have the correct one?





sylvia

Graham

You have jsut posted:- Stephen est year born 1806? marriage july 1833 Harsham


your heading says:-

Stephen Mitchell and Mary Barham



I found a marriage:-
STEPHEN MITCHELL Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BARHAM Family
Marriage: 10 AUG 1825 Petworth, Sussex, England




so which is it???????


Did your Stephen marry Mary Barham?


Did they marry twice??



Is there a SECOND Stephen Mitchell who married a Mary Barham in Sussex????



sylvia

Graham


we know you have them together in 1851

and we're trying to find them for you in 1841


In case you didn't know, the 1841 does NOT tell you the relationships between people living in the same house, and does NOT show birthplace other than born in or out of county (or in Ireland, Scotland or Foreign)

In addition, the 1841 rounds down the ages of most adults to the nearest 5


Both ozi and I have found what seems to be the right mother with children, and we have given you reasonings as to why we think that

The father is so far not to be found ......... and we have both been trying very hard to find him


All you do is dismiss what we have found because they are not together.


Please remember that we are members of this site just like you, and help others because we like to do so, not because we have to, or because we are paid to do so.



sylvia

I have Stephen Mitchell and Mary with there sons in the 1851 census,
Stephen est year born 1806? marriage july 1833 Harsham

Is this their marriage?? From the IGI


STEPHEN MITCHELL Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BARHAM Family
Marriage: 10 AUG 1825 Petworth, Sussex, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M070891 1559 - 1876 0918253-255 Film 6901233 Film




sylvia

ozi


Stephen jr died in 1826, according to the IGI



sylvia

hi ozi~~~~


I cannot find Stephen anywhere


he must be in hiding!



sylvia

This could be Stephen jnr.

1851 England Census
Name: Wm Mitchell
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Horsham, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Lower Beeding
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Horsham
Sub registration district: South Horsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Mitchell 23 - ag lab; Horsham
Ann Mitchell 20
Wm Mitchell 10

could Stephen and William have been out at the time of the census?

I think you would be unwise to discount a lady of the same name living in the same street. Now we know that Charles is probably James Charles, she has two of the same children with her.

Ozi.

Update: Thanks, Sylvia.
I've searched everywhere for Stephen, plenty of possibilities but nothing conclusive.

from the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org.

This is the Mormon site ........ but all these records are EXTRACTED which means taken from the actual parish record

Father Stephen Mitchell, mother Mary, children born 1830 +/- 10 years



1. STEPHEN MITCHELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Christening: 05 NOV 1825 Horsham, Sussex, England
Died 23 January 1826


2. EDWARD MITCHELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Christening: 19 DEC 1828 Horsham, Sussex, England


3. JAMES CHARLES MICHELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Christening: 29 APR 1827 Horsham, Sussex, England






so ................... the James on the 1841 Census found by ozi is probably the same as Charles in the 1851 ............. and she did find the correct census!!!!



Now the problem is to find father Stephen




sylvia

I think that is the wrong Mary? any other possibilities please?