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I am a member of Ancestry.com and didn't get anywhere with the King branch. I am hoping that this site will help. I have a copy of the marriage certificate of my great-great grandparents Edward King and Matilda Cornwall. They were married Sept 12, 1865 at Holy Trinity church in the parish of Milton next-Gravesend in the county of Kent. A William King is listed as Edward's father and it says he was a soldier. I haven't found any other Kings who were married in that church who list William as their father. I have found Edward in the censuses. I don't know who his mother was. I believe that Edward was born in Gravesend, Kent or somewhere near there. Edward's son George Henry King immigrated to Canada in 1912. I would dearly love to find more info on my family and hopefully find some long lost cousins. Thank you for any help you can give me.

Owen George King

where do they show up in the 1871 census?
Where does he say he was born?
do they have children by then? names, POB etc please

FYI there is another thread regarding Matilda Cornwall's parent's - Stephen Cornwall just so nothing get duplicated here.

1881
Name: Edward Abraham King
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Cliffe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: Salt Lane 2 Concrete Cottages
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Engine Driver At Concrete Works

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Abraham King 39
Matilda King 38
Elizabeth Matilda King 13
William Edward King 11
George Henry King 7
Jessie Ruth King 2



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 880; Folio: 8; Page: 9; Line: ; GSU

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Name: Edward King
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: North Aylesford
County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 401

tree on ancestry

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/pt/person.aspx?pid=-1509715987&tid=4866992&ssrc=

Minnie - in the 1871 census Edward and Matilda are listed as living in Stepney, London and Edward is listed as an unemployed coalminer. The next census is 1881 and he is living at Cliffe, Kent and is a engine driver and a concrete works. Their children in 1871 were only Edward who died at age one.

Check out the marriage certificate for yourself and let me know what you think:

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P252B_MILTON_NEXT_GRAVESEND_HOLY_TRINITY_1845_1966/01_INCUMBENT_Service_of_the_Church_Registers_1845_1963/P252B_01_15.html/00000304.jpg

I tried searching the church records for other Kings that were married in the same church around the same time, in case I came across a sibling of Edwards. Nothing yet but these are the names of the Kings I did find with their father's names. Maybe their fathers were brothers of William King?

1.Frederick King, married to Sophia Wilkins,1863, father was James King
2. George King, married to Mary Tucker, 1851, father was Thomas King
3. Priscilla Ann King, married to Thomas Samuel Bryant, 1849, father John King
4. Thomas Henry King, married to Naomi Keary (?), 1856, father Thomas King

By the way, the 1871census says that Edward was born in Grimston, Kent. I am told that no such town exists. But the place name occurs one other time on the same page for someone else and Gravesend occurs in other places so to the person recording the census there was a difference between "Kent Grimston" and "Kent Gravesend". Anyone heard of such a place?

death

Name: Edward Abraham King
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 49
District: Strood (1885-1923)
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 321

ARTHUR PERCY KING Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 31 OCT 1851 Holy Trinity, Milton By Gravesend, Kent, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM MANSFIELD KING Family
Mother: EMILY ROSE


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an update on this search - I may be onto something here. I found a census record from 1851 that lists the following

Mary A. King, married, age 65, Mariner's wife, born Surrey, Rotherhill

Grace King, daughter, age 24, born Rotherhill

Rachel King, daughter, age 21, born Rotherhill

Elizabeth King, daughter, age 14, born Kent, Deptford

Edward King, son, age 9, born Kent, Deptford

on free bmd I found a Elizabeth King born in the Sep quarter of 1837 in Greenwich district (of which Deptford is a part of). No birth record yet of a Edward Abraham, BUT there is a Edward William in Jun 1841 quarter in the Greenwich district. I will have to order the certificates to find out if in fact this is my Edward. What do you all think?

Thank you to everyone who has submitted their opinions and did research of their own for my search. It is greatly appreciated. I haven't done any updates lately as I haven't found anything of any great use. However I just came onto something that holds promise.

I found a census record from 1851 that lists the following

Mary A. King, married, age 65, Mariner's wife, born Surrey, Rotherhill

Grace King, daughter, age 24, born Rotherhill

Rachel King, daughter, age 21, born Rotherhill

Elizabeth King, daughter, age 14, born Kent, Deptford

Edward King, son, age 9, born Kent, Deptford

on free bmd I found a Elizabeth King born in the Sep quarter of 1837 in Greenwich district (of which Deptford is a part of). No birth record yet of a Edward Abraham, BUT there is a Edward William in Jun 1841 quarter in the Greenwich district. I will have to order the certificates to find out if in fact this is my Edward. What do you all think?

I think it would be kinda nice if you first acknowledged the help already attempted and thanked the posters for it. ;)

(Edit - aha, you have now, and we do appreciate it.)

If you google Grimston, Kent, it does seem to have been a place name a long time ago. At present the name seems to survive as street/property names in Folkestone.

If you search at Ancestry in all censuses combined for anyone born in Grimston, Kent, this is one of three results:


1871

Name: Emma Franklin
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard
Where born: Grimston, Kent, England

Civil parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: London
Registration district: Stepney

Richard Franklin 26
Emma Franklin 27
William Franklin 3


This could be the marriage:

Marriages Dec 1865
Anthony William E. London 1c 50
> FRANKLIN Richard E London 1c 50
> King Emma E London 1c 50
Thing Emma E. London 1c 50
Willmer_on Susan E London 1c 50

This could possibly be that Emma King's household in 1851:


William King 70 - occupation labourer
Matilda King 69
Ellen King 17
Ann King 15
Edward King 10
Emma King 7
George King 5
William Thurston 43
Orpha Smith 77

Civil parish: Northfleet
County/Island: Kent
Registration district: North Aylesford


The children are all shown as daughter and son, but that's a tad hard to believe.


That Edward matches with the birth Victoria posted long ago:

Name: Edward King
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: North Aylesford
County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 401

Although the 1841 is a little different ...

William King 50
Matilda King 30
Sarah King 13
Charlotte King 11
John King 10
Ellen King 5
Anne King 3
Edward King 1

Civil parish: Darenth
County/Island: Kent
Registration district: Dartford


1861 in Northfleet:

William King 80
Matilda King 52
William King 30
Sarah King 29
Emma King 17
George King 14
Florence King 5
William Earl 31


That William was already 50 in 1841.

It's conceivable he was a soldier before that time.

One of my grx2 grandmothers called her father a soldier on her marriage certificate c1860, and it was a long time since he'd been that.

Thanks for the input Janey. I found the baptism record for the Edward King that you mention

Name: Edward King
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: North Aylesford
County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 401

However, his parents are listed as Thomas and Ann King. Maybe the William and Matilda in the census are actually the grandparents. Who knows? I haven't ordered the certificate for this Edward but I couldn't find any other baptism records for the North Aylesford district for a Edward King.

Ah, and we must always remember that registration was still spotty at that time. Your Edward's birth, if he isn't one of the Edwards we've been looking at, may just not have been registered.

I found that shared "Grimston" birthplace quite interesting.

Any trace of baptisms for the other kids?

This looks like Emma:

Births Mar 1846
King Emma Dinah N Aylesford 5 440