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Helen
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16 Feb 2009 08:35 |
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Hi, I have the following birth - Daisy Matilda Hambleton, born 17/04/1896 18 Major (?) Road, Stratford, London. Parents Samuel Hambleton (Builder's labourer) and Esther Hambleton formerly something, very hard to read, might be Ludsell (last bit almost certainly ...'sell'). I cannot locate any marriage for the parents on free BMD so any help on this or census info would be gratefully appreciated. Many thanks.
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16 Feb 2009 08:41 |
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1901 CENSUS Address 14 Marcus St Civil Parish Westham Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish All Saints Parliamentary Borough or Division South Westham County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Westham Administrative County Westham Householder 1 Name Albert Hambleton Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 17 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Labourer General Employment Status Where Born Essex Startford Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name Daisy Hambleton Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 4 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Juvenile Employment Status Where Born Essex Stratford Language Infirmity Householder 3 Name Esther Hambleton Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 39 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Charwoman Employment Status Where Born Essex Ongar Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name Ethel M Hambleton Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 15 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Domestic General Servant Employment Status Where Born Essex Startford Language Infirmity Householder 5 Name Florence Hambleton Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 7 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Juvenile Employment Status Where Born Essex Leytonstons Language Infirmity Householder 6 Name Samuel Hambleton Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 34 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Bricklayer Employment Status Where Born London Hackney Language Infirmity Householder 7 Name Samuel G Hambleton Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 12 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Juvenile Employment Status Where Born Essex Leytonstons Language Infirmity Householder 8 Name William Hambleton Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 9 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Juvenile Employment Status Where Born Essex Leytonstons Language Infirmity
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Helen
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16 Feb 2009 08:45 |
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Thank you very much, that certainly looks like them and I see that Esther is from Ongar so maybe this will help with identifying her.
Helen
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Ozibird
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16 Feb 2009 09:29 |
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1891 England Census Name: Samuel Hambleton Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Esther Gender: Male Where born: Hackney, London, England Civil Parish: Leyton Ecclesiastical parish: Leytonstone St Margaret County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 1 Cecil Rd
Occupation: bricklayer's labourer
Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Hambleton 25 Esther Hambleton 28 Ethel Hambleton 7 Samuel Hambleton 3
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Ozibird
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16 Feb 2009 09:34 |
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1871 England Census Name: Esther Lindsell Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Emina Gender: Female Where born: High Ongar, Essex, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Stratford County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 376 Household Members: Name Age Henry Lindsell 42 - labourer; St, Essex [That's what's on image too. Or it could be Lt] Emina Lindsell 38 - Stratford, Essex [I think this could be Emma] Elizabeth Jane Lindsell 14 - High Ongar, Essex Esther Lindsell 11 Annie Lindsell 8 - Theyden, Essex Rosetta Lindsell 4 - Betley, Kent William Lindsell 11 months - Stratford, Essex
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Ozibird
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16 Feb 2009 09:40 |
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Marriages Jun 1880 Eden Maria Harriett J Bethnal Green 1c 349 Eden Maria Henrietta J Bethnal Green 1c 349 >>>>>Lindsell Esther Bethnal Green 1c 349 >>>>>SHADRACK James Robert Bethnal Green 1c 349 WILLIAMS Frederick John Bethnal Green 1c 349
1881 England Census Name: Esther Shadrach Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Ongar, Essex, England Civil Parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Bridleway 62 Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Shadrach 26 - shoemaker Esther Shadrach 21 Robert Shadrach - 7 months
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Helen
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17 Feb 2009 08:36 |
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Thank you for all that extra info! Can we presume that Esther had married Mr Shadrack and may have then married or lived with Mr Hambleton? I can't find the Lindsell/Shadrack marriage on Free BMD or a subsequent Shadrack/Hambleton marriage, have you seen anything for the 'second' marriage?
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Ozibird
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17 Feb 2009 11:48 |
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I searched for Hambleton/Shadrack variations as well with no luck.
I tried to find a James Shadrack death, no luck. Maybe that tells the story.
Ozi.
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Helen
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17 Feb 2009 15:51 |
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Thanks very much for looking, all rather suspicious...!
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Helen
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17 Feb 2009 15:58 |
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Sorry, I meant to ask whether you had places of birth for the Lindsell family please?
Thank you so much for your help with this one!
Helen
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Ozibird
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17 Feb 2009 21:17 |
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I've added places of birth to 1871 post.
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Ozibird
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17 Feb 2009 21:27 |
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Esther has been wrongly identified with the following household. On image she's a Lindsell.
1861 England Census Name: Henry Lindsell Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: High Ongar, Essex, England Civil Parish: High Ongar Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Roadside
Occupation: agr labr
Registration district: Ongar Sub registration district: Bobbingworth ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Henry Lindsell 22 Emma Lindsell 21 - Shalford Elizabeth Lindsell 4 Ester Brand 1
Others born High Ongar.
In 1871 son William's pob looks like Shalford.
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Ozibird
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17 Feb 2009 21:30 |
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Marriages Dec 1854 Lindsell Henry Braintree 4a 613 Willis Emma Braintree 4a 613
Registration district for Shalford.
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Ozibird
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17 Feb 2009 21:36 |
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1851 England Census Name: Henry Lindsell Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Newport, Essex, England Civil Parish: Newport Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: High St
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Registration district: Saffron Walden Sub registration district: Newport ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Household Members: Name Age James Lindsell 46 - ag lab; Wendon Martha Lindsell 44 James Lindsell 20 - ag lab Joseph Lindsell 18 George Lindsell 16 Henry Lindsell 12 Mary Ann Lindsell 8 John Lindsell 5 William Lindsell 3 George Harvey 81 - father; widowed; pauper
All except James snr born Newport.
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Ozibird
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17 Feb 2009 21:38 |
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1841 England Census Name: Henry Lindsell Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil Parish: Newport Hundred: Uttlesford County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: High Street
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Registration district: Saffron Walden Sub registration district: Newport Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Lindsell 35 - ag lab Martha Lindsell 30 James Lindsell 11 Joseph Lindsell 8 George Lindsell 6 Henry Lindsell 2 George Harvey 70 - ag lab
??? Deaths Mar 1880 Lindsell Henry _1 W. Ham 4a 20
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Ozibird
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17 Feb 2009 21:42 |
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Check address against Esther in 1881.
1881 England Census Name: Emma Lindsell Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Shaldford, Essex, England Civil Parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Bridleway 21 Condition as to marriage: widowed
Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emma Lindsell 48 Rose Lindsell 14 Willie Lindsell 10 Arthur Lindsell 8 Horace Lindsell 5
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Helen
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18 Feb 2009 09:09 |
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That's brilliant, thank you so much for all of that, you have been very busy!!!!
Helen
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