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Adopted Grandmother

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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 11 Feb 2009 13:12

Have just found my nan Mabel Dorethy Roberts as adopted on the 1911 census. She has the name Elsley connected with her. Does this ring any bells with any one. She was born c 1909
Any ideas?

jansmith

jansmith Report 11 Feb 2009 13:21

Where was she born? or any other info

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 11 Feb 2009 13:47

Sorry for delay in replying, not been on site for while and couldn't see how to relply.lol
She is listed as Elsley, Mabel Dorethy Robers adopted child aged 18 months born Kingsgate Rd Kilburn. This could come under Willesden, Paddington or Middlesex.

jansmith

jansmith Report 11 Feb 2009 14:01

Elsley should be Elsie?
sorry did'nt know it was surname

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 11 Feb 2009 14:05

Never thought that it was her Christian name because she was known as Mabel or Dorothy. Will look into it again Thank you.

Potty

Potty Report 11 Feb 2009 14:24

The 1911 gives her surname as Elsley and christian names as Mabel Dorethy Roberts.

There is this birth on freebmd:

Ilsley Mabel Dorothy R Hampstead 1a 529

Also this one on the same page, may be a coincidence but the christian names are the same:

Smith Mabel Dorothy R Hampstead 1a 529

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 11 Feb 2009 14:34

Potty, you star you may have found something.
When originally looking for her last year I was unable to find her father (adopted) Charles Roberts. His Widow on his death certificate is M Roberts. My mum thought her name might have been Mary Smith. I have been trying to find Mary Smith on Hot matches. I always wondered privatley if it was Charles that had adopted her! Unfortunatly, prior to 1911 I haven't found Charles an Mary as a couple on the census yet!
will look into these leads.
Thanks to both you and Janice for your help.
You will never know how much this means to my mother and her brother, Mabel died in 1947 when they were young.

+*+blossom In Essex+*+

+*+blossom In Essex+*+ Report 11 Feb 2009 14:38

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
ROBERTS Charles William Hampstead 1a 1421 Scan available - click to view
Smith Mary Ann Hampstead 1a 1421 Scan available - click to view

Potty

Potty Report 11 Feb 2009 15:02

Just realised I didn't give the year and quarter for those births:
Births Dec 1909

Just a couple of thoughts:

If that is the right marriage in 1898, then if Mabel was Mary's daughter she should have been registered under Mary's married name of Roberts. So, I wonder if she is the daughter of a relation of Mary's.

If the 1909 Ilsley/Smith birth are for the same child, it looks as if the father is named on the cert.

Please get the Ilsley cert , Jennifer and come back and let us know.

jansmith

jansmith Report 11 Feb 2009 15:33

? wonder if there is any connection to this couple
Marriage
Marriages Dec 1916
Ilsley Hannah /Alfred Smith Hampstead 1a 1607

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 11 Feb 2009 15:40

Sorry for delay in replying again, been looking for Charles and Mary again on census.
I am going to get marraige certificate and birth certificate and will let you know.
Thanks again

jansmith

jansmith Report 11 Feb 2009 15:48

what are their details in 1911 to see if we can find them in 1901 for you

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 11 Feb 2009 16:01

Roberts, Charles W Head Married 13 years age 41 Postman
born Kenrtish Town St Pancras
Roberts Mary wife Married age 33 born Blackmore Mon
Elsley, Mabel Dorethy Roberts adopted child 18 months born Kingsgate Rd Kilburn. I have spelt the information exact. as on form.
The were residing in Chichester Road West Kilburn. next road to where I was brought up!

jansmith

jansmith Report 11 Feb 2009 16:07

no other children or any died then
Got to go out will look back later to see if anyone else has found them!

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 11 Feb 2009 16:57

Not to my knowledge

jansmith

jansmith Report 11 Feb 2009 20:57

Hi if you have the census image then number of children alive/dead was recorded.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 11 Feb 2009 21:52

Can only see the parents and adopted child on 1911 census.
Can not fine them prior.