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Hi Victoria,

Location for births and marriages was Kidderminster Worcestershire

Chris

Hi mgnv,

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I'm just finding it so confusing with Edwards being the supposed name of young Elizabeths mother and Alexander listing Ann Edward as mother and I just don't understand where Joseph Sale comes into it. Alex is shown as widower in 1851.

Chris

Chris

please give locations for the census records and marriages

V

Two points to consider. Firstly, XX-in-law used to be used where we would now say stepXX. Secondly, in 1841, the age of adults (15+) was supposed to be rounded down to a mult of 5, so your Eliz a="15" could have been anything in range 15-19.

I am struggling to make sense of this. I have Alexander Martin c1819 born Kidderminster, parents shown as John and Sarah on familysearch.

In 1851 census he is shown with daughter Elizabeth c1842 and son William c1844, Ann Edward c1784 listed as mother and Joseph Sale c1790 listed as father in law.

In 1841 I have found an Ann Edward c1786 with 2 daughters, one was named Elizabeth c1826. I realise that if this Elizabeth was the mother of Alexander Martins daughter Elizabeth she would have only been 15/16 at the time. I have not found Alexander in 1841.

I have found two marriages for Alexander the first to Sarah Burbige in 1843 who is Williams mother and the second to Mary Pirks in 1851.

I have been told that on Elizabeths death certificate that her mothers name was given as Elizabeth Edwards and I was wondering if Ann Edward could have been young Elizabeths grandmother. I found a death for an Elizabeth Edwards an wonder if it was a result of childbirth but when I got the certificate it was that of a married woman.

As yet I have not been able to find Elizabeths birth.

Could one of you very clever people make sense of this.

Thanks

Chris