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Hi, if any one can help i would be greatfull, im trying to find my grandparents parents, they are welsh, born in pontypridd.
my grandfathers mother maiden name is lye and his tathers name is mealing, my grans mothers maiden name his holvey and my grans fathers name is hillier, both my nan and grandad were born in 1912 and i have searched through all the lyes and hilliers and holveys and mealing marriages from 1900 to 1915 trying to match up there numbers to no avail, its been three months so i even tried to get there birth and marriage certificates thinking this will give me there parents names but cant order them as i need there parents names for the certificates i am so fustrated does any one have any hints please, ive even look for other siblings but i think both of them were the oldest, sorry for the babble but if someone could help i would be so greatfull yours sincerly julie ann

OK.......slow down...........

Just give us the full names of your grandfather and grandmother.and the years in which they were born...........

you dont need parents names to order birth certs, just the childs name and GRO reference,

what are the full names that you are looking for

Roy

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Births Sep 1912 (>99%)

Mealing James C H Lye Pontypridd 11a 1150


If that is the right person......you have there ALL the info you need to order the birth cert online from www.gro.gov.uk

Sorry, could I clarify:

You are looking for your great grandparents.

What are their names and when/where were they born?

If you have found their birth references on freebmd or the complete index you dont need their parents names to order the certificate from GRO online for £7.


http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Hillier Alice M Holvey Pontypridd 11a 1073

hi sorry my grans name is alice mary mealing born 1912 pontypridd wales her husband was charles c h mealing born 1912 pontypridd i have found both of these and have there numbers but the gro wanted to know there parents names and wouldnt let me proceed with ordering, thanks for the quick reply :)

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Hillier Alice M Holvey Pontypridd 11a 1073


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Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Flower Tom Crickhowell 11b 208
Hillier James Crickhowell 11b 208
Holvey Esther Crickhowell 11b 208
Preston Nellie Beatrice Crickhowell 11b 208

And ditto for gran -- just go to

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

click on the red Search

and search for

births
surname Hillier
mother's surname Holvey

and bingo, there it is -- as Ericthered says, that's all you need to order the birth cert and get the parents' names.

But since you knew the mothers' birth surnames already, do you know their full names? If so ... spit 'em out. ;)


Editing to fix a typo - and i was going to say, do the same searches, with the two surnames, for marriages, but I see it's been done and dusted ...

is this the other one

Births Sep 1912

Hillier Alice M Holvey Pontypridd 11a 1073

Roy

Just make sure you check the box where they ask if you have the GRO refs...............that is all you need......you can omit any reference to parents' names..................

When you go to the GRO and have entered the year and type of event there is another box which asks if you have the GRO reference. Tick that box and then all you need are the details that have been giving here to order the certs.

Blimey, just looked back and ALL this stuff given in 10 minutes - what a team :)

GRO doesn't want to know their parents' names, you see -- it's just a piece of info you can include *if* you want it checked (for instance, if your person is John Smith, and you only want the cert if the father is Horatio).

It's not a mandatory piece of info. Just go ahead and order.

ohhh thank you people youve been so helpfull once again, i dont know there parents first names only there last names so this has been very helpfull :)

Possible typo................

Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
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Matthews Edward Pontypridd 11a 1054
Mealing Robert Pontypridd 11a 1054
Nye Grace N Pontypridd 11a 1054
Renwick Edith Pontypridd 11a 1054

But you really can find the parents' names w/o the birth certificates, for now.

Just search for

marriages
surname Hillier
spouse's surname Holvey


... but I'm sure somebody will hand that to you here too ...

Oh no, that's right somebody did. Well, for future ref (the dual surname search works right back to 1837, but before 1911 only the certificate will confirm the match), that's how it's done.

thanks for that i will try to order the certificates again and i was trying the match up as i did that with my fathers side of the family, its just maddening all i knew about my father was his name and date of birth and in three month ive got back to 1761 but my grandparents on my mums side have been an absolute nightmare, thanks again you have all been fantastic as usual, thanks again ; ))