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JenW

JenW Report 12 Jan 2009 12:08

I can't find any that seem to fit. This is driving me up the wall, I'm never gonna crack this line of my family!

JenW

JenW Report 12 Jan 2009 11:24

I've finally received the birth certificate of my great nan Grace Gertrude Marsh born 21st March 1904 registered in Toxteth Park district of Liverpool. There is no father on the cert although I wasn't expecting there to be since she was born as the result of an affair! Her mother was Sarah Emily Eaton Barrett, a domestic servant (i'm presuming at 31 Grey Street since that's where Grace was born)
I've ordered the marriage cert of Sarah and George Henry Marsh but I was wondering if anyone could possibly help me try and located Sarah.
Thanks
Jen

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 8 Jan 2009 11:00

Possible siblings to Grace..................

Births Dec 1914 (91%)
MARSH Lilian Barrett W. Derby 8b 744

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Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Marsh Mary M E Barrett W.Derby 8b 668

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Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Marsh William A Barrett W.Derby 8b 667

Lewella

Lewella Report 8 Jan 2009 04:17

Found this on Ancestry (it's a bit old)


finding michael & maria STUDZOR New
jaychlo (View posts) Posted: 12 Feb 2004 9:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: STUDZOR
i am looking for any help on michael & maria STUDZOR they were born 1806 & 1809 in cork, ireland but i am unable to find any reference to any STUDZOR outside of western australia

please help

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Lewella

Lewella Report 8 Jan 2009 04:10

Looks like George had a younger brother:

MARSH, FREDERICK JOHN
Father: FREDERICK GEORGE
Mother: STUDZER MARIA
District: UPPER SWAN
Reg No. 2801
Year: 1855

Lewella

Lewella Report 8 Jan 2009 04:07

The marriage is available in WA also:

MARSH, FREDERICK GEORGE Male
STUDZOR MARIA SUSANNAH Female
District: WEXCOMBE
Reg No. 635
Year: 1854

JenW

JenW Report 8 Jan 2009 03:01

thank you, thank you thank you!! finally i'm getting somwhere with this line!

Lewella

Lewella Report 8 Jan 2009 02:58

A possible:


1841 England Census
about Frederick Marsh
Name: Frederick Marsh
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Morden
Hundred: Loosebarrow
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Registration district: Wareham and Purbeck
Sub registration district: Bere Regis
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Marsh 38
Hannah Marsh 37
John Marsh 15
George Marsh 13
Rebecca Marsh 12
Cornealious Marsh 10
Sarah Marsh 8
Frederick Marsh 3
Elizabeth Marsh 1

Linda

Linda Report 8 Jan 2009 02:55

Hi, there is this on the WA bmd site. You can order the cert through them:

MARSH GEORGE HENRY STUDZSOR Father :FREDERICK GEORGE Mother; STUDZSOR MARIA SUSANNAH Place: BUNGARRA 2425 1854

Regards Linda

Lewella

Lewella Report 8 Jan 2009 02:45

Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ Pedigree Resource File

Search Results | Print
Frederick George Marsh Compact Disc #141 Pin #3128663 Pedigree
Sex: M
Event(s)
Birth: 1839
uk
Parents
Father: John Marsh Disc #141 Pin #3128569
Mother: Hannah WELLMAN Disc #141 Pin #3128570
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Susannah Maria Studzsor Disc #141 Pin #3128667
Marriage: 1854
WEXCOMBE

Lewella

Lewella Report 8 Jan 2009 02:43

Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ Pedigree Resource File

Search Results | Print
George Henry Studzson Marsh Compact Disc #141 Pin #3128668 Pedigree
Sex: M
Event(s)
Birth: 1854
Bungarra,Western Australia
Parents
Father: Frederick George Marsh Disc #141 Pin #3128663
Mother: Susannah Maria Studzsor Disc #141 Pin #3128667
Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None
Submitter
Lynda WATSON
26 Patterson Street Malak

JenW

JenW Report 8 Jan 2009 01:53

OK, I've had contact from another GR member and it would appear that George Henry Studsor Marsh (1854 Western Australia) was the biological father of Grace Gertrude Barrett (1904 Liverpool).

George was married to Eliza Wells at the time and they employed Sarah E Barrett as a servant at some point. George then had an affair with Sarah and they had Grace, George (1910) and Mary (unsure of birthdate). Straight after Eliza died, George and Sarah married in 1913 in Liverpool.

If anyone could help me with an Australian lookup i'd be very grateful as I have no idea where to start. George's parents were Maria Studsor and either John or Frederick Marsh. I've seen 2 different trees and they have different fathers on them.

Any help would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Jen

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 7 Jan 2009 10:58

Glad to have helped..........I enjoy puzzles!

JenW

JenW Report 7 Jan 2009 01:31

Eric, I'd like to say a huge thank you to you. The George Henry Marsh you found is in fact the correct one. I now cant wait to see if my great grandmother's birth cert has the name of her biological father on it. Fingers crossed. Thank you again

JenW

JenW Report 6 Jan 2009 18:09

this is looking more and more likely by the second. As soon as I get paid i'll send for the marriage cert which should prove it.

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 6 Jan 2009 17:48

Probably George's death....ties in with his being 'deceased' when Grace married

Deaths Mar 1925 (95%)
Marsh George H 70 W.Derby 8b 608


JenW

JenW Report 6 Jan 2009 17:42

It doesnt look like it took George very long to get over Eliza's death!!!

Deaths Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Marsh Eliza 60 W.Derby 8b 286


Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Marsh George H Barrett W. Derby 8b 671

JenW

JenW Report 6 Jan 2009 17:15

Thanks very much. Yeh I'm getting impatient waiting for the 1911 census now. Knowing my luck it'll be December before they release it.

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 6 Jan 2009 17:12

He's on 1881....plus in-laws. I'll let you look for that one................

I would doubt that he was Grace's bio father............unless he was unable to marry her mother because Eliza was still alive............

1911 census will be vital for you................

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 6 Jan 2009 17:07

1891

Name: George Henry Marsh
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston, Australia

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Henry Marsh 37
Eliza Marsh 38
Edith Evelyn Marsh 9 b. Liverpool