Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

New posts
No new posts
Thread closed
Stickied, new posts
Stickied, no new posts

Profile	Posted by	Options	Post Date
Member Since: September 2008 Posts: 45 Send Message	blackberry15	Report	9 Dec 2008 22:11
	I have a John William Thorpe married to Elizabeth Dooley and they had a son Joe Thorpe in 1906, Oldham Lancs. I think John might have been married before.He was a Ironworks Labourer and lived in 7 Bedford St, Oldham, in 1906. His son Joe went on to marry Eva Turner and have Joe, Harold, Kathleen and Irene (twins), Jack and Desmond. If anybody is able to help with anymore info I would be very grateful as I am now stuck.
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 5,751 Send Message	Ericthered	Report	9 Dec 2008 22:15
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 5,751 Send Message	His marriage should say if he was a widower Without that cert, you can't make headway.........as it will also tell you how old he was........and his father's name. You need those details to be able to look for him on earlier records............ All this assumes that you can find the marriage...............at the moment, I can't!
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 1,817 Send Message	Cheshiremaid	Report	9 Dec 2008 22:25
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 1,817 Send Message	Possible marriage to a Elizabeth Dooley... Name: John William Thorp Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Oldham County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 1143 (click to see others on page) Linda
Member Since: September 2008 Posts: 45 Send Message	blackberry15	Report	9 Dec 2008 22:38
	This looks right to me, should I apply for marriage cert for this marriage?
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 5,751 Send Message	Ericthered	Report	9 Dec 2008 22:48
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 5,751 Send Message	1901 census perhaps? Name: Elizabeth Thorpe Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John W Gender: Female Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Oldham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Oldham Sub registration district: Oldham Below Town ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Thorpe 21 John W Thorpe 35 b. Huddersfield, Yorks
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Ozibird	Report	9 Dec 2008 22:54
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,301 Send Message	Definitely that marriage. Dooley Elizabeth Oldham 8d 1143
Member Since: September 2008 Posts: 45 Send Message	blackberry15	Report	9 Dec 2008 22:58
	Thanks very much, I will apply for marriage cert., I have several branches on the go at once and but this is my main one, but the one I have struggled to get going with the most. Thanks again!
Member Since: September 2008 Posts: 45 Send Message	blackberry15	Report	9 Dec 2008 23:24
	I am trying to apply for marriage cert but GRO are asking for day/mth/year. ?
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	9 Dec 2008 23:37
	Make sure you tick the box that asks if the references are known. Rose
	Researching: I am not related to you and I'm not your husband's first wife!
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	9 Dec 2008 23:38
	It does appear he was married previously. 1891 England Census Name: John W Thorpe Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ada Gender: Male Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: Hollinwood County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Oldham Sub registration district: Oldham Below Town ED, institution, or vessel: 42 Household Members: Name Age John W Thorpe 27 Ada Thorpe 27 Rose
	Researching: I am not related to you and I'm not your husband's first wife!
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	9 Dec 2008 23:50
	Although he's a cotton spinner in 1891 and 1901 and yours is an Iron Works Labourer. Rose
	Researching: I am not related to you and I'm not your husband's first wife!
Member Since: September 2008 Posts: 45 Send Message	blackberry15	Report	10 Dec 2008 11:54
	Ironworks Labourer was mentioned on his son Joe's birth cert. All the census's mention jobs connected with the cotton industry. I'm wondering whether the change in employment came because of a decline in the cotton industry, not sure when that was. Everything else looks good, so I think I will put in for both Marriage certs. I would be grateful if someone could find his marriage to Ada.
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 1,817 Send Message	Cheshiremaid	Report	10 Dec 2008 12:57
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 1,817 Send Message	Possible marriage to Ada Taylor... Name: John William Thorpe Year of Registration: 1883 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Oldham County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 728 (click to see others on page Linda
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 1,817 Send Message	Cheshiremaid	Report	10 Dec 2008 13:00
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 1,817 Send Message	Possible death of Ada... Name: Ada Thorpe Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 34 District: Oldham County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 513 (click to see others on page) Linda
Member Since: September 2008 Posts: 45 Send Message	blackberry15	Report	10 Dec 2008 14:08
	Many thanks for all your help, certs have been ordered.
Member Since: September 2008 Posts: 45 Send Message	blackberry15	Report	10 Dec 2008 14:40
	Another question if you don't mind. I would be grateful if anyone can make the address on the 1901 census, is it just Scott Street, as it appear to have something written under it, cellar perhaps and does anyone know what the numbers are 8 X ? and what are they for. also just going back to the Iron Labourer point, the next person on the sheet after Elizabeth is listed as a Iron works Labourer, but can't make out the address, is it his neighbour and could that be the connection? Any thought's greatly appreciated.
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	10 Dec 2008 19:22
	It's 8 x 5c so I thinks that's number 8 on 5 Court. Rose
	Researching: I am not related to you and I'm not your husband's first wife!
Member Since: September 2008 Posts: 45 Send Message	blackberry15	Report	11 Dec 2008 12:15
	Thanks Rose

All Categories

Popular Searches

Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

Boards

Quick Search

Single word search

Tools

Icons

JOHN WILLIAM THORPE