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Ages in the 1841 are rounded down to the nearest 5 so Isaac could be anything from 35-39 in 1841.

You could look on Familysearch.org for earlier parish records, or find a child born after 1837 so that you can buy the birth cert to get Sarah's maiden name, or you can visit the London Metropolitan Archives and trawl the Lambeth parish registers.

Happy hunting!

Janice,
Are there any census /birth records prior to 1841? My g,g,g grandfather appears to be Isaac Sage who was 35 in the 1841 census indicating a birth date around 1806 but I cant find his birth record. Whats the best source of info prior to 1841 census please?
Many thanks for your patience and help.
Martin

Here's Edmund's death:

Deaths Dec 1882
Sage Edmund 51 St. Saviour 1d 88

1841

Edmund Sage
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
born: Surrey, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second

Isaac Sage 35
Sarah Sage 35
Agnes Sage 15
John Sage 13
Edmund Sage 11
Emma Sage 8

Janice you are brilliant.
So Julia was Davids mother. I will look up the birth
certificate to find hi father.

"Davis!!" - thats why I couldnt find him! haha!
thank you so much.

1881

Julia Sage
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1841
Wife
Spouse's Name: Edmund
born: Southwark, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George Martyr
Street address: 9 Lansdowne Pl

Edmund Sage 50
Edmund Sage 3
Henry Sage 3
James Sage 6
John Sage 18
Julia Sage 40
Stephen Sage 14
William Sage 8

Julia and Edmund's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1872

Plunkett Julia St Saviour 1d 133
Sage Edmund St. Saviour 1d 133

Got them - he has been transcribed as Davis instead of David. Went via the brother he was living with in 1901

1891:

William Sage
Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: Julia
Gender: Male born: St George; Southwark

Civil Parish: St George The Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: Kent Road

Julia Sage 48
William Sage 19
James Sage 18
Henry Sage 14
Davis Sage 10
Emma Sage 8

this is his birth reg the cert will tell you his parents names

Births Dec 1879

Sage David St. Saviour 1d 32

If you buy the marriage cert, you'll get the father.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Samspade found the GRO reference - further up the page.

Many thanks to you all for your help. Its so interesting but also frustrating when gaps appear.
I think its clear that David Sage b 1881 in Walworth (who married Annie Strawson in 1904) was my grt. grandfather. But I have no idea who his parents were.
If anyone can help I would be so grateful.
thank you again.
Martin Sage

Births Jun 1913

Sage John E mother's maiden name-Strawson Stepney 1c 576

Births Sep 1917

Sage Thomas G Strawson Stepney 1c 352


Births Dec 1919

Sage Henrietta M Strawson Southwark 1d 249


Births Mar 1922

Sage Jessie V P Strawson Mile End 1c 595

1901 England Census
about David Sage
Name: David Sage
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, London, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: Trinity, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age

Alice S Sage 28
David Sage 20 -Boarder
Florence A Sage 4
Frederick C Sage 9
Grace E Sage 1 month
Sydney A J Sage 7
Victoria M Sage 4
William G Sage 28 -Head

1901 England Census
about Annie Strawson
Name: Annie Strawson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Wholecross St, London, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 318
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Strawson 47
Annie Strawson 16
George Strawson 56
John Strawson 19

Births Mar 1905
Sage David Edward Lambeth 1d 320

Marriages Jun 1904

Sage David Lambeth 1d 624
Strawson Annie Lambeth 1d 624

What exactly are you asking? Are you trying to build a family tree or find living relatives?

My grandfather David Sage was born in London in 1905.
He married Victoria Richards in 1928/29. They had 4 children; Ron (my Dad), Rosina, Ken and Fred. Fred died in his teens around 1958. David, I believe, had 6 brothers and sisters. One brother was Harry, one sister was Jessie. David's father was also a David who I think married Annie (Strawson?).
If any of this makes sense to anyone, I would be extremely grateful to hear from you.
Thanks
Martin Sage (b. London 1960)