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Michael

Michael Report 9 Nov 2008 10:34

I am trying to trace my father’s side of the family
My father’s death certificate say
Ernest William George Fredrick Albert Edward Alexander Topham

And that his father was Thomas George Jackson (I estimate the age to be between born no later than 1900 and as early as 1850) a Cole miner

And his mother was Amy Elizabeth Topham c1891 a cotton winder

0n my father’s birth certificate there is no mention of George Thomas
Instead there is the name of the informant as E.A. Topham who is believed to be Ernest Albert
As to whether E.A.. Topham is Amy Topham’s’ father or brother I have yet to establish

My father’s given name was also Ernest William
And not as found on the death certificate
Although I do know of them and his use of them
The names are of his grandfather and other family members

He was also known to have used the name Ernest john Topham

My father was born on the 23-07-1916 at union place Glasshouse Street Nottingham u.d.

I have vague memories of him talking about hull and South Africa where he served during ww2 as a cook in the officers’ mess serving with the Sherwood foresters I think I also have a document that states he his of South African descent although this is not proof of and/or unlike to be his heritage as I know my father did embellish is past in order to hide it

Kind regards Michael Topham

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 9 Nov 2008 10:59

Could E.A Topham actually be Amy and she had transposed her names??

I cannot find a birth for an Amy Elizabeth Topham, there are of course loads of Elizabeth Topham's!!

Tracey

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Nov 2008 14:52

1881 - possibility
George TOPHAM Head M Male 39 Nottingham, Nottingham, England Beer Seller
Elizabeth TOPHAM Wife M Female 35 Grantham, Lincoln, England Lace Hand
Eliza TOPHAM Dau Female 5 Nottingham, Nottingham, England Scholar
George TOPHAM Other Male 9 m Nottingham, Nottingham, England
John TOMESON Lodger U Male 20 Nottingham, Nottingham, England Iron Moulder
George HYMAN Lodger U Male 17 Loughboro, Leicester, England Framework Knitter


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Source Information:
Dwelling 11 Washington St
Census Place Nottingham St Mary, Nottingham, England
Family History Library Film 1341802
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3359 / 53
Page Number 31

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Nov 2008 14:55

1881
Louisa H. TOPHAM Head W Female 37 Coventry, Warwick, England Household Property And Share Owner
Joseph R. TOPHAM Son Male 13 Nottingham, Nottingham, England Scholar
Ernest W. TOPHAM Son Male 12 Nottingham, Nottingham, England Scholar
Aubrey H. TOPHAM Son Male 8 Nottingham, Nottingham, England Scholar
Emma COATES Sister W Female 44 Warwick, England Household Property Owner
Sarah B. COATES Niece U Female 21 Warwick, England Household Property Owner Daughter
Alice COOK Servant U Female 35 Falmouth, Cornwall, England Domestic Servant Cook
Mary CHAPPELL Servant U Female 22 Penzance, Cornwall, England Domestic Servant Housemaid


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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Peel Villas Alexandra Road
Census Place Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England
Family History Library Film 1341564
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2347 / 24
Page Number 42

Linda

Linda Report 9 Nov 2008 15:07

Hi Micheal, Is this your fathers birth, if so it looks like your mother was unmarried:?

Births Sep 1916

Topham Ernest W - mmn Topham Nottingham 7b 694

Births Mar 1893

Topham Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 544
Topham Elizabeth Ann Mansfield 7b 74

Births Sep 1899

Topham Amy Nottingham 7b 333

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 9 Nov 2008 15:39

Here is Amy in 1901
2 Lincoln Place Nottingham
Eliza A Topham 27 married Lace Dresser b Nottingham
Amy 2 b Nottingham
(Husband not present)

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 9 Nov 2008 15:45

Frederick Topham married Eliza Ann Porter 1896 Sep Q Nottingham vol 7b page 517