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hi i have this record of Mary Ann Short (nee Jordan) in 1881, can anyone find her in 1891 or 1901 census please. Her brother William was living with her, I have all I ned on him, but apart from census up to this point and her marriage, I have no idea what happend to her.

Groom name: John Short Groom age: 21
Bride name: Mary Ann Jordan Bride age: 22
Residence: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Event place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, St. Nicholas, Naumb, Eng
Event date: 1878
Father of groom name: Elijah Short
Father of bride name: Thomas Jordan

Thanks
Kathy

1881

William O. Jordan16 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Age in 1881: Brother in Law Where born: Embleton, Northumberland, England
Alnwick Abbey Civil parish: Alnwick Northumberland Occupation: Grocers Apprentice
Source information: RG11/5123 Registration district: Alnwick Sub-registration district: Alnwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 6 Page: 6

William O. Jordan abt 1865 Embleton, Northumberland, Brother in Law Alnwick Abbey, Alnwick, Northumberland,
Ellen J. Short abt 1879 Alnwick, Northumberland, Daughter Alnwick Abbey, Alnwick, Northumberland,
John Short abt 1857 Alnwick, Northumberland, Head Alnwick Abbey, Alnwick, Northumberland, England
Mary A. Short abt 1857 Alnwick, Northumberland, Wife Alnwick Abbey, Alnwick, Northumberland, England
Robert Short abt 1880 Alnwick, Northumberland, Son Alnwick Abbey, Alnwick, Northumberland, England

1891 ??

Name: Ellen Short
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Alnwick, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Stannington
Ecclesiastical parish: Stannington
Town: Stannington
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: New Lodge

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Castle Ward
Sub registration district: Ponteland
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Lortlan 16 sister-in-law, Warkworth
Ellen Short 12
John Short 35 Alnwick - forester
John R Short 2
Mary A Short 35 Embleton, Northumberland
Mary S Short 10/12



Just going to check image for address and occupation


Class: RG12; Piece: 4240; Folio 68; Page 4; GSU roll: 6099350.

1901 poss

Name: John Shortt
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Alnwick, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Stannington
Ecclesiastical parish: Stannington
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: Blagdon Lodge

Occupation: Forester Head

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Castleward
Sub registration district: Ponteland
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Jordon Shortt 22
John Shortt 44
John Robert Shortt 12
Mary Ann Shortt 45 Embleton, Northumberland
Mary S Shortt 10

Class: RG13; Piece: 4815; Folio: 74; Page: 12.

Hi Glitter baby, thanks for that, you know what I am going to ask you I bet, can you send the images please

Best wishes
Kathy

Thought you might need the images.

Give me a couple of minutes to save and I will forward them to you


Maureen

hi again, next request, can anyone find the father of John Short n any census. Here is the marraige details for John and Mary.

Groom name: John Short
Groom age: 21
Bride name: Mary Ann Jordan
Bride age: 22
Residence: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Event place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, St. Nicholas, Naumb, Eng
Event date: 1878
Father of groom name: >>>Elijah Short
Birthplace Belford, Northumberland, England
Age 50
Occupation Railway Inspector
Marital Status M
Head of Household Elijah SHORT
Relation Head
Dwelling Ferry Hill Stn
Census Place Chilton, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342179
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4902 / 108
Page Number 46

And I might have his marriage

ELIJAH SHORT Spouse: HANNAH ADDISON
Marriage: 15 NOV 1859 Gateshead, Durham, England
Husband Age at Marriage: 28
Wife Age at Marriage: 30

thanks Glitter baby, your a star.
Cheers
Kathy

1871 will probably rule this one out

Name: John Short
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Alnwick, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Alnwick South Side
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Alnwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Short 9
Elizabeth Short 59
George Short 1
Hannah Short 6
Isabella E Short 16
Jane Short 46
John Short 12
Richard T Short 15
Thomas Short 11


Elizabeth is actually Elijah on image but occupation is Woodman

1881 ? just for info
Name: Elijah Short
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Belford, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Chilton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: Ferry Hill Stn
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Railway Inspector

Registration district: Stockton
Sub registration district: Sedgefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Green 30
Elijah Short 50
Hannah Short 52 Newburn

Hi, had to laugh, father elizabeth!! It looks like it could be mine, can you send image as well please, still laughing,

Cheers
Kathy

1871 think this is possibly the right one

Name: Elizah Short
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Ferry Hill
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Stockton
Sub registration district: Sedgefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Barrett 28
Elizah Short 40
Hannah Short 42
Richard Short 10

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4911; Folio: 36; Page: 10; GSU roll: 848013.


Will send this one and see what you think


Maureen

hi Maureen, do you not think the first one that named children, (John Short) would be nearer the right man. How about 1861, I need to place the 2 of them together to be sure they are the right family. Going to look for births on BMD, cant fined Elizah on the LDS site, if he was born 1830, he will be somewhere.

Thanks
Kathy

1861 well been looking at this one

Name: John Short
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Elizah
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Alnwick, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Alnwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Alnwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Mc Dowal 87
Ann Short 82
Elizah Short 48
Isabella E Short 6
Jane Short 36
John Short 2
Richard T Short 5
Thomas Short 1
William Short 8

Will send the image

Maureen

Why have you posted details of Elijah/Elizah being a railway worker?

Was that a guess given the christian name?

1851 - keeps changing place of birth if he is the right one

Name: Elijah Short
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Shilbottle, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Alnwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: woodman

Condition as to marriage: unmarried

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Warkworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Short 72 mother
Elijah Short 38
William Short 10 nephew

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2419; Folio: 417; Page: 5; GSU roll: 87097-87098.



Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%)
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Davison John Alnwick 25 209
Fitzgerald Mary Alnwick 25 209
Kelly Patrick Alnwick 25 209
Kelly Rebecca Alnwick 25 209
Robson Joseph Alnwick 25 209
Ross Amy Alnwick 25 209
Short Elijah Alnwick 25 209
Smart Jane Alnwick 25 209



1841 poss
Name: Elijah Short
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Alnwick
Hundred: Coquetdale (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: nurseryman

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Alnwick
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elijah Short 25
Moses Short 70
Ann Short 60
Isabella Short 30

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 828; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Alnwick; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 15; Folio: 6; Page: 4; Line: 14; GSU roll: 438890.

Thanks Maureen, I found the 1881 on LDS, only one seemed to fit, will take another look. If we have him right he must have been born 1811c will look for him now, thanks
Kathy

Oh why can I never find anyone on LDS census? Tried all family members and got nothing comeing up. Found a marriage for Moses, if he was the father.

Think its bed time

Will catch up tomorrow

Thanks

Kathy