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Thanks for that I had seen that one but thought not at the time the age would work right for her death 1868/9 wonder who the fathe was? guess we will never know that one. We were told the father was son of the big house but maybe just talk. Think the big house was called Cuddington Manor!! or something like that.
Val

Found this on familysearch.org which seems to fit with Christianna:-

CHRISTINE HANNAH WILLIAMS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 MAY 1843 Newtown By Wem, Shropshire, England
Father: THOMAS WILLIAMS
Mother: MARY

Two marriages that could fit this record:-
THOMAS WILLIAMS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 12 NOV 1827 Wem, Shropshire, England
Spouse: MARY JEFFREYS

THOMAS WILLIAMS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 26 JAN 1830 Wem, Shropshire, England
Spouse: MARY CHESTERS

If this is the same Christianna, then she must of had a relationship with one of Joseph and Ellen's sons for the two girls to be their grandchildren. Could be that Christianna's parents disowned her when she fell pregnant.

Thank you for the info will go further into that one must be part or same family.
Val

Possible birth for Joseph:-
JOSEPH DULSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 OCT 1812 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Father: JOSPH. DULSON
Mother: CECILIA

Children to go with above entry:-

1. ANN DULSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 APR 1816 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
2. WILLIAM DULSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 AUG 1825 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
3. ELIZABETH DULSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 1814 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
4. MARY DULSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 JAN 1822 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
5. JOSEPH DULSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 OCT 1812 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
6. JOSEPH DULSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 MAR 1829 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
7. Mary Dulson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 JAN 1822 Whitchurch,
Shropshire, England

Two Joseph Dulsons??

This family in 1841 with Joseph born 1829:-
Name: Joseph Dulson
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Hundred: North Bradford (Whitchurch Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Occupation: Ag. Lab.

Registration district: Wem
Sub registration district: Wem
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Dulson 55
Ciceley Dulson 50
Ellen Dulson 20
Joseph Dulson 10

Note:- Ellen Dulson living with them, but no birth for an Ellen Dulson to this couple. Could it be the wife of Joseph?

Marriage for this couple:-
JOSEPH DULSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 08 OCT 1810 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Spouse: CICELY DULSON

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Even if this is not your Joseph there's a good possibility that it is part of the family so worth keeping on file.

I still find this odd as well yes according to the girls birth certs mother Christianna Williams father UK Christianna dies 1869 Holywell workhouse of TB we have death cert she came from Calverhall we think born about 1846 she was 25 when she died. I cant seem to find a link there I thought maybe a dulson married a williams girl somewhere but I cant find it at all,

I still can't understand how the Williams girls can be grandchildren. Valerie, you said their mother was Christianna Williams with no father named so Williams must have been her maiden name?

Also an ellen strange couldbe a possible

I wonder if he had a son called Joseph?
If so, then maybe it's his marriage in 1863?

There is a birth for a Joseph:-
Births Sep 1844 (>99%)
Dulson Joseph Wem 18 191

so could be possible?

This must be the birth for Elizabeth:-

Births Sep 1856 (98%)
Dulson Elizabeth Wem 6a 638

If you buy the certificate this will give you her mothers maiden name!!

Here's another possible marriage:-

Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
Cottom Thomas Wem 18 244
Dulstone Joseph Wem 18 244
HALES Henry Wem &c 18 244
Higgins Fanny Wem &c 18 244
Johnson Elizabeth Wem &c 18 244
MILLINGTON Ellen Wem &c 18 244

Joseph in 1861:-

Name: Joseph Dubson
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandford
Ecclesiastical parish: Calverhall Holy Trinity
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Occupation: Ag. Labourer

Registration district: Wem
Sub registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dickin 28
Elizabeth Dubson 4 - 1857 - born: Prees, Shropshire
Ellen Dubson 49 - 1812 - born: Prees, Shropshire
Joseph Dubson 47

Married to Ellen???

Married to Ellen in 1851, too, (mistranscribed Dalson)
Willaston, Shropshire
Joseph Dulson, head, 37, ag lab, born Whitchurch
Ellen, wife, 39, born Prees
John, son, 9, born Prees
Sarah, dau, 5, born Whitchurch
Samuel Forks, visitor, 19, born Whitchurch
Ann Hand, visitor, 4, born Whitchurch

Gets even odder with marriage in 1863

Problem! He's already married to Ellen on the 1861 census (Mistranscribed Dubson)
Willaston Lawn, Township of Willaston, Sandford, Shropshire
Joseph Dulson, head, 47, ag lab
Ellen, wife, 49
Elizabeth, dau, 4
William Dickin, lodger, 28, ag lab
All born Prees except Joseph born Whitchurch.

Maybe he was married before!!

Hi
The Joseph I have is born 1815 on 1881 cencus cant find on 1871 as membership expired says his wife is Ellen but that would have made him 50 odd when he married Ellen he has Eliz Dulson 24 and Sarah Williams 14 but on the 1871 the both girls were there unless I am going mad!! with family.
Val

You beat me to it, Catherine!

Ah, the name's transcribed Dalson in 1871:
Prees, Shropshire
Joseph Dulson, head, 53, ag lab, born Whitchurch
Ellen, wife, 55, born Prees
Elizabeth, dau, 14, born Prees
Martha William, grandau, 5, born Whitchurch
Sarah Williams, grandau, 4, born Prees

Hang on. Found them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1871
Name: Joseph Dalson
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Prees
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Occupation:

Registration district: Wem
Sub registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Dalson 14 - 1857 - born: Prees, Shropshire
(Relation: Daughter )
Ellen Dalson 55 -1816 - born: Prees, Shropshire
Joseph Dalson 53
Matha Williams 5 - 1866 - born: Whitchurch, Shropshire
Sarah Williams 4 - 1867 - born: Prees, Shropshire

1891 census
Prees, Shropshire
Joseph Dulson, head, 75, ag lab
Ellen, wife, 79
Elizabeth, dau, 34, dressmaker
Martha E. Williams, grandau, 23, dressmaker
Eleanor I. Hough, grandau, 2
All born Prees except Joseph born Ash.