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Hi

I need a death look-up if possible please:

Susannah Newby (nee Williamson) between 1820 and 1850 in Yorkshire (Doncaster I believe).

Many thanks

How sure are you that she died between these dates?

Death registration did not start until 1837 - before that you will only find burial information. You can look the 1837 onwards deaths for free on this site:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Hi

Ive looked on BMD but no luck.

I am actualy checking some information that someone else have me and I have doubts that its rights.

I know she married Charles Newby in 1920 but in the 1851 Census Charles is listed as being married to Martha. So, I am assuming Sussanah mist have died between those dates.

Im trying to work out when she died as at the moment I dont know whether Martha or Susannah was the mother of my ancestor.

FYI

Martha was born approx 1813 in Brierley Common, Yorks
Chalres was born approx 1795 in Campbell Doncaster
Im assuming Susannah was born approx 1800

Thanks

I've found this in the 1851 census but this Susannah is married to John.... could it be a possibility
Name: Susannah Newby
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Clint, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkham
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image

Registration district: Malton
Sub registration district: Rillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Newbey 22
Sarah Newbey 9
John Newby 58
Susannah Newby 51

Do either of these children look familiar (only Charles Newby of the right age in Yorkshire in the 1841). The address looks like Bell Lane:

1841 England Census
about Chas Newby
Name: Chas Newby
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Doncaster
Hundred: Doncaster Borough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub registration district: Doncaster
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Chas Newby 40
Ann Newby 11
Charles Newby 9

Hi

Thanks for looking but her maiden name was Williamson, she married Charles and became a Newby so had she married again she would have changed surname again... so I dont think this can be her.

but thankyou

Hi Potty

I dont think the dates fit in as my Charles was born 1795.

But thank you

Ages on the 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5 so he could have been anything from 40 to 46. Also, the address that Charles and Martha are living at in 1851 is Bells Close which is where the Charles I found was living in 1841 (have rechecked the image and it is Close not Lane as I originally posted)

The 1841 unfortuneatly does not give marital status so can't tell if Charles was a widow or not then.

Have you found his marriage to Martha?

Charles Newby
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Doncaster
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Lavrath 70
Charles Newby 52
Charles Newby 18
James Newby 7
Maria Newby 3
Martha Newby 38

Which of the children is your ancestor?

I think Potty does have the right 1841 census for Charles he was living in Pells Close and this is him in the 1851 census again living in Pells Close
Name: Charles Newby
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Doncaster
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Lavrath 70 Lodger
Charles Newby 52
Charles Newby 18
James Newby 7
Maria Newby 3
Martha Newby 38

Unfortunately, as you know, the 1841 census doesn't state marital status but the chances are that Susannah died somewhere between 1832 and 1837 possibly in childbirth to son Charles. So it might be necessary to look at Parish records for date.

It looks like Charles married again between 1841-1851 as there is quite an age gap between Charles and James

Possible marriage
Marriages Mar 1842

Longley Martha Rotherham 22 264
NEWBY Charles Rotherham 22 264

There are these three baptisms on familysearch with father Charles and mother Susannah:

1. GEORGE NEWBY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 MAR 1835 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

2. CHARLES NEWBY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 JAN 1833 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

3. HENRY NEWBY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: About 11 MAR 1835 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Another baptism with parents Charles and Susannah:
ANNE NEWBY Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 NOV 1829 Campsall, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: CHARLES NEWBY Family
Mother: SUSANNA

There are several other baptisms on familysearch for girls with the same parents, baptised Campsall.

This could be her death registration

Deaths Mar 1840
NEWBY Susanna Doncaster 22 64

Hi Guys

Wow thanks for all your replies. Have to try and digest all that now ....

My ancester is James Newby born c1845 who later married Emma Butler.

The information that I had from another GR member was that the mother was Susannah but from the 41 census it lists Martha as being Charles' mother..

I'll have to re-look at all the info you have given me along with the census images.

Thanks so much for all your help.

Hi Again

So I have just digested everything your said and apart from the red herring that states that Charles' mother was Martha (?) it would appear that:

Charles Married Susannah in 1820
Anne was born c 1830
Charles born c1833
Susannah dies 1832-1837 (possibly 1840 if Catherines record is correct)
CHarles marries Martha approx 1842
James is born c1845 which means that Martha is his mother and the informtion that all my relatives have (which iriginated from a GR member) is incorrect.

Do please let me know if ive got any of this wrong.

Thanks guys.

Michelle

Yes, you have got it right, Megan.

Charles is actually the son to the head of household (Charles). If their is a husband and wife, the transcribers assume that the wife is the mother of all the children - not always correct.

Have you got James birth cert? This would confirm his mother's name.