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Hi Liz,He may have gone back to check on his mother ....in some way?.It would be interesting to know when his mother died.Cass

Well done Cass!!! I'm impressed at your detective work. I wonder why Tom was shipped back to Canada in 1918 only to travel back to England in 1919. If his family came back in 1912, you'd have thought he would have stayed here at the end of the war.

Oh wait that's them going over to Canada isn't it, in 1912. Silly me. Here they are coming back to England without Sarah. Perhaps she died? They didn't stay very long and I still don't know why Tom went back to Canada.




UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Phyllis Gledhill
Name: Phyllis Gledhill
Birth Date: abt 1909
Age: 6
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 16 Jun 1915
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Sicilian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Sicilian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Allan Line
Official Number: 111225


They are travelling to Starcliffe, Boldmin? Rd, Erdington?, Birmingham.
Mrs Gledhill, 29 year old housewife, daughter Phyllis, son Joseph 8, Florence 4 and Arnold 4 months.


Liz

I 2nd that Liz!

Tom Gledhill married Eunice Rose Sims in 1905.

Children; Joseph c 1907
Phyllis c 1908
Florence c 1911 and after returning from WW1 they have Patricia 1920.
These children were all registered as born Yorkshire.
Ther may be one or two that were born in Canada.

Immigration Canadian Passenger Lists Halifax Nova Scotia November 1912.

Maybe this is Tom's family....Transcription error?

Eunice Gladdall age 26
Joseph age 5
Phyllis age 3
Florence age 1? and a Sarah age 59,Widow?...Tom's Mother!

The children's birth year's seem to coincide with the marriage year of the parent's.

Regard's,Cass

There is this birth which matches with MMs find for Patricia's burial in Halifax. Very strange if it does match, they seem to have been back and forward a few times.

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Gledhill Patricia Sims Hunslet 9b 922 Scan available - click to view

I wonder if he married before emigrating.

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
BUTCHER Harriet Ann Hemsworth 9c 241 Scan available - click to view
>>GLEDHILL Tom Hemsworth 9c 241 Scan available - click to view
HAMMOND Herbert John R Hemsworth 9c 241 Scan available - click to view
>>Sims Eunice Rose Hemsworth 9c 241 Scan available - click to view



Liz

Hi Everyone who has replied to this thread.

A million thank you's from the bottom of my heart. I have always wondered what happened to him and I can't wait to break the news to my living aunt.

Seeing a photo of the grave sent shudders down my spine and had me crying outloud.

Once again thanks everyone, we do indeed have the right Tom Gledhill.

Now it's got me wondering if there are any living decendents? any ideas how I can find out?

There's a cemetery listing in Halifax of Patricia McDougall died 7 Feb. 1997, aged 77, daughter of Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Gledhill of England.

There's a photo of his gravestone here:

http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=memorials/fortmassey/fm_plot&pn=265

Nice one Liz! Lol,Cass

Attestation Papers.

Thomas Gledhill born 6 December 1880,Nostle?,Wakefield,Yorkshire,England.

Occupation;Miner
Wife;Eunice @ address Broughton,Cape Breton N.S,Canada.

Signed up 11 February 1915 for Overseas Expeditionary Force.

Discription on Enlistment:

Height 5' 4".Complextion;Dark.Eye's;Brown.Hair;Dark
weight 153lbs and Religion Cof E.

Scar back of left leg
Scar left elbow
Scar bridge of nose
Scar Right Shoulder.Cass

I think this is the man you found Cass. He was a miner from Broughton CB NS? and I think his wife was Eunice,



Canadian Soldiers of World War I, 1914-1918
about Thomas Gledhill
Name: Thomas Gledhill
Birth Date: 6 Dec 1880
Birth Location: Wasthe, Wakafield, Yorkshire, England
Relative: Mrs Brinice Gledhill
Regiment Number: 67233



you got there before me Cass! lol


Liz

Hi Liz.I think we have the correct person.On the Canadian's Soldier's of War,he's the only one! and birth place,although mistranscribed is corrct match born 6 December 1880,Occupation..Miner and wife Eunice.Cass

There is also this one. This one is a miner, returning from Canada to 3 Hardwick Street, Hunslet, Leeds.


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Thos Gledhill
Name: Thos Gledhill
Birth Date: abt 1880
Age: 39
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 24 Sep 1919
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Minnedosa
Search Ship Database: View the 'Minnedosa' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 142717

For reference, is this the right 1901 census? Seemingly Nostell is near Wakefield so it looks like you have the right one Cass.



1901 England Census
about Tom Gledhill
Name: Tom Gledhill
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Nostell, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub registration district: Morley
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Gledhill 14
Elizabeth Gledhill 33
Geo R Gledhill 4
Joseph Gledhill 58
Lydia Gledhill 17
Sarah A Gledhill 53
Sarah A Gledhill 7
Tom Gledhill 21 coal hewer
Wm Gledhill 34

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Liz

Hi Vincent.Do you know where he was born?.Could it be somewhere in Wakefield,Yorkshire?Cass

Hi.There's a Thomas Gledhill arriving at Halifax,Nova Scotia on the 14 June 1918.

The ship's name was the "Neuralia" and it left Avonmouth,England carrying wounded soldier's[WW1], home to Canada.

The mentioned Thomas Gledhill was wounded in his left leg and was going home to Toronto,with next of kin being his wife,which there's no name mentioned.Cass.I'll have another look.

Hi Josephine.

Thanks for the help. What other information would be given by anyone with full access?

Regards
Vince Gledhill

Anyone with access to the ship records please help me to find the destination of my G Grandfathers brother Tom Gledhill.

He was born in 1879 or 1880 because he was 21 on the 1901 census. He was living in Morley in 1901. All I know was from my oldest living relative who is still alive that he emmigraged to Canada and my G Grandfather never saw him again.

Regards
Vince Gledhill