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Births Jun 1920
Swan John F Markin Bosmere 4a 2120

Births Mar 1922
Swan James A Markin Bosmere 4a 1785

Marriages Sep 1919
Markin Hilda A Swan Bosmere 4a 2633
Swan Robert _ Markin Bosmere 4a 2633

(reg district Bosmere contains Battisford)

probate - Robert Wilford Swan of Battisford Suffolk who died 25 Oct 1925 at the East Suffolk &Ipswich Hospital Ipswich Administration Ipswich to Hilda Augusta Swan widow. Effects £451

Ipswich record office (try googling for exactly what they hold) probably hold church records for the area so you could look for marriage & baptisms. It can be a long trawl but often worth it in the end.

If they have the probate index and you can find a will you may be lucky enough to be able to actually read a copy if it was proved in the area. I know that is the case in Lancashire. I'm sure the staff would help you there.

You would not be able to see copies of certificates (I wish!!) as they are not available in CRO's. The volume and page numbers refer to the GRO volumes which are held at Southport. Some counties have a special certificate office but the sytem is the same as at the GRO.

thats great info thanks :) i suppose if i head down to the Ipswich records office i may find some info.

What else do they hold at the record office? i seen on the registers they have volume and page numbers on them? if i went down to the records office and looked at that volume and page would i get a lot more info then is on here?

:) xx

to look for a will you need to look at the national probate index for the year he died and possibly the following few years as well. If you find a probate record that fits (they give date of death address and who the executors are plus sometimes wife's name) you can then send off to York Registry for a full copy at a cost of £5. Indices are usually held in County record offices and at some major libraries.
Wills can be a great source of info - or conversely tell you nothing that you did not know already.One I have names everyone living in the hamlet!

Sorry not replied sooner , been off the computer for a while.

Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)
Mallett Frederick George Bosmere 4a 901 Scan available - click to view
Swann Frederick Bosmere 4a 901 Scan available - click to view
Theobald Sarah Bosmere 4a 901 Scan available - click to view
Wilford Elizabeth Bosmere 4a 901 Scan available - click to view


You need the year, volume and page number to order a certificate. These are the numbers coming after the district as in the above vol 4a page 901.




Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Swan Robert N Milligan Lambeth 1d 1155


or


Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%)
SWAN Robert Glasspool Lambeth 1d 791


Liz

well my Nan's dad (Roberts Brother) was William Swan born 1899 and their Parents were Elizabeth swann (nee Wilford) and Fredrick swann

do i need the exact date of marriage to purchase a marriage certificate?

I know this is a huge assumption here but maybe this is his brother?

Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
Chance Maud M H Swan Lambeth 1d 544 Scan available - click to view
Stansbury George T A Wilkins Lambeth 1d 544 Scan available - click to view
Swan William C Chance Lambeth 1d 544 Scan available - click to view
Wilkins Florence Stansbury Lambeth 1d 544 Scan available - click to view



Their children perhaps


Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Swan Maud E L Chance Lambeth 1d 382 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Swan William H Chance Lambeth 1d 489 Scan available - click to view


Does your nan know of any other siblings or his parents names?

His mother was born in Lambeth, perhaps they didn't go back to Suffolk and he ended up growing up and marrying in Lambeth? I think you would need to purchase the marriage certificate.


Liz

I think that is def him on the 1901 on census just not sure on the marriage at the mo, i an't see any Robert Swan married in suffolk between 1914 -1925

I see from the marriage to Elizabeth Milligan, his middle initial was N. This may be useful in narrowing things down. I don't know if this is him in 1901?




1901 England Census
about Robert Swan
Name: Robert Swan
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Battisford, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Shepherds Bush
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: North Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Swan 29 niece, b Lambeth
Robert Swan 6
William Swan 1 b Battisford, Suffolk
Elizabeth Townsend 73 wife, b Woolverstone, Suffolk
Robert Townsend 80 head, b Sotterley, Suffolk

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Liz

No i hadn't thought of that, how would i go about finding if he had a will?

he was my nan's uncle and he died before she was born so we know very little about him

xxx

how did u find them so quickly hehe

my nan said she believed they had 2 boys but then again she never knew them so she may have got that muddled over time.

Thanks for that :) I will have a look any other info would be very much appreciated

:)

xx

have you tried looking to see if he left a will which might give you some clues.

THese are the only two births I could find for a Swan in Ipswich and nother in Suffolk for the possible mmn's you suggest. Any help?

Births Sep 1913
Swan Gertrude M Wilden Ipswich 4a 1984

Births Jun 1916
Swan Francis P Wilden Ipswich 4a 1942

Swan/Milligan births

Births Jun 1916
Swan Irene W Milligan Lambeth 1d 793
Births Sep 1920
Swan Elizabeth M Milligan W. Ham 4a 717

No births coming up for Swan/Glasspool

Don't know if this helps, but these are births for Swan/ Milligan. Can't find any for Swan/ Glasspool.

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Swan Irene W Milligan Lambeth 1d 793 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Swan Elizabeth M Milligan W. Ham 4a 717 Scan available - click to view

Hi everyone,

I'm tryin to find out some info on Robert swan he was born in 1895, Suffok and died aged just 30 in 1925 in ipswich but thats all we know bout him, we know he died leaving his wife with 2 young children but have no idea on there names.

have had a look through the marriage records from 1914-1924 and have found 2 possible marriages

Elizabeth Milligan in 1915, lambeth (he had a relation in london)

Gladys Irene Glasspool in 1922, Lambeth

if anyone was any info on these 2 women it would be helpful may be able to tie them in to the little info i do have

Thanks Everyone

:)

xxxx