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Thanks Barbara! odd that she gave him her previous married name as a middle name? I have tried the 1881 census and someone over there has tried to find her but no luck. I suppose its a deadend if I can't find her birth cert? maybe she was born in USA? Or just not registered..

Anyway, thanks for looking you have been a great help!
annette

Thanks Jill, lets hope the odds are in my favour! signing off now, need some kip!

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If it's the only one you can find for the period and all other info fits then I would. OK it might be wrong, but the odds are it's the correct one.

Good luck. I shall keep my fingers crossed.

Jill

Ok Jill, thanks for that, I suppose I could order the cert without being sure if its her or not?

It's quite common for them not to show their middle names in census returns so don't worry about a missing middle name ..

Jill

Ask away Barbara! any help is greatly appreciated.

in 1891 census she is Sarah Middleton aged 46 married to John middleton they married in Lindale in 1888. they are both listed as widows and have a number of childen living with them by 1891. She had 2 children to her first husband ellen christina and mary francis who came back to the UK with her, presuambly after their father died?

what a puzzle?

have found her on the usa census 1880, and the UK census 1891, but can't find her previous to that!

Also, they are listed as Ragler in the 1880 usa census, they have 2 children Ellen Christina and Mary Francis. have asked for help finding this marriage certificate previously but drew a blank!

netty

yes got her maiden name from the cert on her second marriage, also her fathers details
the witnesses were Edward Burrow and Sarah Beaumont.

is it worth a visit to the church where they wed? its close to where I live (Lindale church in Cumbria)?

Can't see her on 1880 US census.............

Did you get her maiden name from the cert for her second marriage?

And her father's details?

Who were the witnesses?

Is it possible she was born out of the country? she is only ever listed as Sarah on the census, never as Sarah Elizabeth.

thanks for your replies

I can't find where she married her American husband (richard ragland) although they lived in New York/brooklyn area so could assume it was there?

Where did she marry her American husband?

Oh! I didn't know that. Is there a way of establishing that she was born there? Not very good at thinking outside of the box!

thanks for your reply

netty
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The birth may not have been registered..........it wasn't compulsory until 1875.

You need also to establish that she was born where she said she was................I can't see any sign of her before her marriage............

Hi, I am trying to order a birth certificate for a Sarah Baxter born c1850 in Workington cumberland, father John Baxter a mariner. Am unable to read the records! Would be most grateful to anyone who can help me find the correct certifIcate to order.

Thanks and kind regards

netty
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