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Thank you everyone

For all that info tonight - sorry if India caused a problem!!!

Definately seems more likely to be the last post.

Will get those cert as you suggested.

Thank you so much

Sue

I agree as well Andy

I agree Andy

Hi Sue.

As I see it.

Charles T Bell born Edmonton 1883 - see my post above.

He married either Annie or Lily in 1902 - as above

Doris Maude born Barnet 1905. Died 1959 age 54.

You would need birth cert for Doris and marriage cert for Charles to confirm details.


No India connection.

(waits to be shot down in flames....)

Andy

If Doris was born 1905 Barnet then it's begining to sound as though she may be the daughter of Charles Trojen Bell who was posted originally.

Andy

That seems to fit!!! with dates I have so far - thank you.

Can you confirm his place of birth? was it India?

And also Annie Wallace and Lily Wright are they both his wifes?

Details about Doris Maude are correct - hurray!!!!!

And District for all of this seems to fit also.

Thank you

Sue

Mel and Claire

Last post for Charles T Bell - marriage seems to fit - but can definately confirm from Grandads m/cert his middle initial is a T (Trojen).

And Doris Maude birth and death details as just posted are correct also.

Thanks

Sue

Are you sure of Doris date of birth?

I can see a death in 1959 at age 54, which fits with this birth

Births Sep 1905 (>99%)
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Bell Doris Maude Barnet 3a 435


and Charles trojan Bell marriage in 1902

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
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Bell Charles Trojan Kingston 2a 646
Wallace Annie Kingston 2a 646
Wright Lily Louisa Kingston 2a 646


Andy

You must get Doris's birth certificate as this will give her mothers name as well,
Then you can look for the marriage of her parents and go further back one step at a time. As someone else said, there is no point in going down the wrong family line

Linda

Only confirmed info I have on Charles T Bell is off my Grandads marriage cert - stating his name and occupation, the rest has come from searching on census records - where he came up on 1891 with that initial and other details mentioned before.

I can give you access to my tree if that would help?

Sue

Is this Doris's birth?

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Bell Doris M Base W.Ham 4a 760

That 1891 census I posted is the Vauxhall Bridge Road address. The middle initial of F looks like other F's on the page

Claire

Thank you, I will do that and then come back to you - if that is ok?

Thank you for your time

Sue

I don't think that it can be him on those two censuses because the initial is F in both cases.
i think that it is more likely to be the English birth found for you above.
How do you know he was born in 1870?

Linda

I have found him on 1891 census at 21 yrs old, as a boarder, born in India but address being Vauxhall Bridge Rd, Hanover Belgrave and initial is T.

Not sure now? what do you think?

Sue

Sue you will need to order a copy of Doris Maud's birth cert before you can think about tracing her dad. It all to easy to follow the wrong family.

Linda

Everything else seems to fit, but as you said the middle name doesn't match - is there anyway it can be him? or have I hit another dead end?

Thank you

Sue

1891, but again with the middle initial F, so is it the person you really want

Name: Charles F Bell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: India

Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles F Bell 21
Nuwevvie Francis 24
Emma Howson 34
Laudia Keleher 21
Emma Mellor 71
Annett Pilmer 43
Edward A Rogers 10

Claire

Doris Maude - her mum's name I do not have as yet - sorry?

Sue

Mel

That is loads of info - thank you!

Could the middle initial be a 'T'? as his middle name was TROJEN (as shown on my Grandad's marriage cert.

Also could he have been married twice? as my Nan Doris Maude was born 1919 and died 1959 - so not sure if this would tie up?

But India part does seem to tally!!!!

Look forward to hearing back from you.

Sue