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cant find census for henry bartell?

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Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 21:42

henry bartell born march 1848 aylsham, i want to find out who his mum ,dad and siblings were? but i cant find him on the census, same goes for his wife emily glister( married in dec 1873 st olave) i want to find her parents names siblings etc but having trouble if anybody can help would really appreciate it, thankyou, regards,
genevieve.

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 14 Oct 2008 21:58

Hi,

There is an Emily Glister in 1861 census born Norfolk c1850. Mothers name is Sarah and she is showing as a widow. Sorry new to this so don't know how to copy info direct onto here.

Chris

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 14 Oct 2008 21:59

If you buy the marriage cert, it will name both fathers, and ensure that you follow the correct line

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 14 Oct 2008 22:01

1881 census is FREE.....www.familysearch.org

What does it say about their birthplaces and birth years?

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 14 Oct 2008 22:02

1891

Name: Emily Bartell
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Cowpen
Ecclesiastical parish: Horton
Town: Waterloo
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub registration district: Blyth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Bartell 12
Edna Bartell 7
Emily Bartell 43
Henry Bartell 43 b. Oulton
Henry James Bartell 4

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 22:07

hiya eric thanks for info, i didnt know 1881 census was free is that why its not on here? im just following that lead you and tracy and some other nice ppl gave me yesterday, i really am no good at this! lol hope your well and once again thankyou

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 22:09

thankyou chris every little bit of information helps me get closer to my goal so dont worry about it, im pretty new too and dont have a clue! lol thankyou for helping

Debbie

Debbie Report 14 Oct 2008 22:11

1881 England Census
about Henry Bartell
Name: Henry Bartell
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Oulton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Bedlington
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Colliery Labourer

Registration district: Morpeth
Sub registration district: Bedlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Bartell 2
Emily Bartell 33
Harold Bartell
Henry Bartell 33
Mary Bartell 6
May Bartell 4

eSource Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5117; Folio: 6; Page: 6; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342236.


Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 22:21

hiya evryone thankyou for taking the time to help, but i just wana say so im not wasting anybody's hard work and time but i already have these details about his children and wife, im looking for his parents names so i can progress further back into my family history thankyou, it is appreciated.

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 22:23

thankyou ever so much debbie, for taking the time for me, look at message below, best wishes, genevieve.

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 14 Oct 2008 22:25

This is the nearest I can get in 1851............but I would strongly advise that you purchase either the birth or marriage cert....

Name: Henry Bartle
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Oulton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Oulton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Registration district: Aylsham
Sub registration district: Eynsford
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Bartle 57
Henry Bartle 2
Isaac Bartle 12
John Bartle 15
Mary Bartle 53
Sarah Bartle 23
Robert Matthews 15

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 22:33

hi eric that sounds like it could be a match, its a possibility, a good one, was it usual for last names to be spelt differently back in 1851? and does it say all of the households relationships to henry? and is sarah his mother? thankyou eric youre a star! best wishes, genvieve

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 14 Oct 2008 22:36

There is no info about who the child's parents are......he is simply down as grandson, to the head of the household........Henry snr.

Mary is his wife, Sarah his daughter...the older boys are 'sons'

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 22:40

hmm thats strange? so he could of been an orphan? thankyou eric youve really helped me, regards genevieve

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 23:42

hi eric just done some researching and i dont think there's anyway henry bartle is the same henry bartle im looking for i found a record for a henry bartle in 1881 in sunderland with a wife and 2 year old child originally from oulton norfolk 10 street thankyou for teying though many thanks.

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 14 Oct 2008 23:43

henry bartell

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°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 14 Oct 2008 23:57

Genevieve I've lost the plot here.

You have Henry Bartell on the 1881 born Oulton c1848 & on the 1851 Henry Bartle born OUlton c1849. What makes you think that this is not the same person?

To be honest I think you are trying to rush things, yesterday you weren't sure what your granny's mum's name was. You would be well advised to take things slower & order some certs to prove your work. We've had many an unhappy chappy on here saying that their entire tree is wrong because they missed buying a cert

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 15 Oct 2008 16:52

hiya claire ive lost the plot, lol, i know it couldn't be the same one because there's 2 seperate 1881 records for these 2 men, one is henry bartle born same place around same year but he has a wife with a different name and the henry bartell im looking for has a record in the same year 1881 with a wife named emily with 3-4 children to her so it couldnt possibly be same person lol, i am going to get cert as soon as poss it would confirm everything i need to progress in my search, thankyou for your concern hun, im just impatient lol but i shall try slow down hope your well, best wishes, genevieve

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 15 Oct 2008 16:57

Until you get some certs you are not going to be able to be sure about anything..........

I posted what I found......that's all anyone can do with online info............

Hope you manage to sort it out..........

Genevieve

Genevieve Report 15 Oct 2008 22:44

hi eric, yes i know thankyou for info you have given me , it is appreciated and i will get certs asap thankyou, best wishes,genevieve.