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Frederic (Eric)
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10 Oct 2008 01:54 |
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I am trying to find any detail on John Thomas Morrison born 1864 in Thornhill,UK. Married Mary Jane Hobman August 1885 in Knottingly, West Yorkshire. Last know address was 16 Foundry Lane, Perth Scotland.
I believe he left his family (12 children in total) sometime after 1910 and travelled to Australia. Children's names were: Henrietta, Ann, John (my gt grandfather), Fred, Minnie, Elizabeth, Mary, Norah, Colin, Ena, Annice and Wilfred.
Am interested in hearing from anyone that may have any information as I am trying to work through the Morrison family tree.
Many thanks!!
Individuals who may want to contact me can send a message to me via GR.
Regards, Eric Wolske (Morrison/Henderson) Melbourne Australia.
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Irene
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10 Oct 2008 07:41 |
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There are several Thornhills - do you have the birth certificate of John Thomas Morrison as I do not see a birth for 1864. Irene
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10 Oct 2008 08:05 |
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Found him 1891 census a glass blower living with children Henrietta, Ann, John and Fred and he states he was born Doncaster. Regards Irene
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10 Oct 2008 08:51 |
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JOHN THOMAS MORRISON Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 06 SEP 1863 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES MORRISON Family Mother: AGNES
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10 Oct 2008 08:52 |
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1881 census [and not a good idea to put your email on the boards - against the rules of GR!!]
James HOLLINGWORTH Head M Male 30 Knottingley, York, England Tailor And Innkeeper Elizabeth HOLLINGWORTH Wife M Female 29 Knottingley, York, England Ada HOLLINGWORTH Daur U Female 4 Knottingley, York, England Scholar Hannah HOLLINGWORTH Daur U Female 2 Knottingley, York, England Beatrice HOLLINGWORTH Daur U Female 10 m Knottingley, York, England Mary Jane HOBMAN Servt U Female 14 Knottingley, York, England Domestic Servant
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Racca Green Census Place Knottingley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342107 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4585 / 119 Page Number 10
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- oards and also against GRs T & C's]
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Frederic (Eric)
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20 Jul 2010 10:23 |
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Hello again! Irene was kind enough back in 2008 to note that she found John Thomas Morrison on the 1891 Census - a glassblower, born Doncaster.
I do know that he was in fact a glassblower (from 1910 marriage record of his son in Scotland).
What I am trying to find for certain is his parents details. Is someone able to verify his age based on the 1891 Census, so that I can hopefully narrow down his birth record.
I also know that he married Mary Jane Hobman C1885 I believ in Knottingly, West Yorkshire.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Eric
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Frederic (Eric)
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31 Jul 2010 02:03 |
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SylviaInCanada
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31 Jul 2010 05:35 |
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I have tried and tried to find him on that 1891 Census, and cannot!
sorry
sylvia
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Gael
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31 Jul 2010 05:45 |
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possible birth for Mary Jane ???
Name: Mary Jane Hobman Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Nov 1867 Baptism/Christening Place: EAST KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name: William Hobman Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10844-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 990762 Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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Frederic (Eric)
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31 Jul 2010 06:06 |
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Hi Gael and Sylvia, Seems "Irene" found him somewhere. Unfortunately she has not noted the census record in her original repsonse.
Irene 10th October 2008 08:05 Request review Found him 1891 census a glass blower living with children Henrietta, Ann, John and Fred and he states he was born Doncaster. Regards Irene
Not sure where to go now.
Perhaps try a PM to Irene to see if she can help out?
Thanks for your help!
Eric
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SylviaInCanada
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31 Jul 2010 06:33 |
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GOT HIM!
Had to search on John, b. Doncaster, Yorkshire, wife Mary
and this came up!!!
I had already tried searching John M*s*n and got nothing!!
the wonderful ways of ancestry!!!!
1891 Census
Name: John T Marrison <<< it IS Morrison on the image Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary J Gender: Male Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Wombwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Wombwell County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darfield
John T Marrison 26 Glass Blower Mary J Marrison 23 b.ca 1868, Knottingly, Yorkshire Henrietta Marrison 5 b.ca 1886, Sheffield, Yorkshire Ann L Marrison 4 b.ca 1887, Sheffield John T Marrison 2 b.ca 1889, Sheffield Fred Marrison 2/12 b.ca 1891, Wombwell Patrick Tighe 31 Lodger, Glass Blower
Address:- 35 Park Street
I will send in an alternate name change!
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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31 Jul 2010 06:41 |
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1871 Census
Name: John T Morrison Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's Name: F Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Cowick Ecclesiastical parish: Cowick Town: Cowick County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Goole Sub-registration district: Snaith
F Morrison 44 b.ca 1827, Plymouth, Devon, Pot Maker Mary Ann Morrison 34 n.ca 1837, York, Yorkshire Savina Morrison 12 b.ca 1859, York John T Morrison 6 A F Morrison 3 b.ca 1868, Myton, Yorkshire Enerata Morrison 1 b.ca 1870, Snaith, Yorkshire
Address:- West Cowick
If you got the marriage certificate for John Thomas and Mary Jane, that would tell you his father's name, and thus whether this could possibly be him with his family
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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31 Jul 2010 06:45 |
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I think, only think, that those two girls could be called Lavinia, and possibly Henrietta!
sylvia
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Jacky
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31 Jul 2010 06:47 |
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hi sylvia i just found 2 possiblesfor him before he married mary jane not sure now whitch one is right as i was going with the occupation on the 1881 census i won,t delete it just yet at least its another to consider jacky
but must addmitt yours is looking more promiseing than mine
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SylviaInCanada
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31 Jul 2010 07:00 |
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Hi Jacky
I like the name of his father Frederick, and sister Henrietta ... picked up in his own children.
but it's all guess work
Frederic really should get John Thomas' marriage certificate to get the name of his father!
I think we should leave them all up for Frederic to see.
sylvia
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Frederic (Eric)
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31 Jul 2010 07:00 |
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Hi again Sylvia and Jacky, This gives me a great start.
I am 100% positive he married Mary Jane Hobman. I have her death death record which verified what I knew of her side of the family.
Based on the 1871 Census, this could be him. I was relying on a hunch that his father was Fred/Frederick (which is how I ended up with it through my grandfather also).
The 1891 Census info under Marrison also matches some of the initial stuff I found on the family. There were I believe another 8 children after this as Mary Jane was left alone in Scotland with 12 children.
This really does help heaps!! Now I have at least a rough year of birth and as you say getting a copy of his marriage record will help even more.
THANKS SO MUCH ladies - this is great stuff.
Eric (aka Frederic)
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Jacky
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31 Jul 2010 07:12 |
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just deleted mine as not to confuse anything lol i think yours is spot on like you say with fathers name & sisters names jacky
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Irene
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31 Jul 2010 08:29 |
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I had a personal message from Frederic and replied that the entry was under John T Marrison but when you look at the actual census page it is Morrison. Have sent him a personal reply. Thank you for looking for him - silly of me not to put my findings in his original message. Irene
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