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Help needed please 1891 census

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Jane

Jane Report 8 Oct 2008 16:43

Hi
Looks like this could be her,big thankyou Lindsay and everyone else who has took the time to search for her.

Jane

***Lindsay***

***Lindsay*** Report 8 Oct 2008 16:11

Found this 1891 census. On looking at the actual census place of birth looks like Rye Harbour not Eyemore. What does anyone else think.

FOREMAN, Eliza Wife Married F 20 1871
Eyemore
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
645 Folio:
116 Page:
34

Registration District:
Gravesend Sub District:
Gravesend EnumerationDistrict:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Christchurch

Civil Parish:
Milton Municipal Borough:
Gravesend Address:
54, Edwin Street, Milton, Gravesend County:
Kent

Jane

Jane Report 8 Oct 2008 09:47

Hi yes charles and Mary welfare are her parents thankyou for the info on them.

still no luck on 1891 census.

As Eliza's family are in Rye and their 1st child
Maud was born in Rye I thought she may of been here in 1891.
Eliza and Henry married in stood.

greatful for all help.

Jane

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 8 Oct 2008 01:02

1871 England Census about Eliza Welfare
Name: Eliza Welfare
Age: 10 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Icklesham, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Icklesham
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
Town: Rye Harbour
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Rye
Sub registration district: Beckley
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Welfare 2
Charles Welfare 40
Charles Welfare 16
Cornelius Welfare 6
Eliza Welfare 10 months
Kate Welfare 12
Mary Welfare 39
Mary Ann Welfare 10
Rosa Welfare 4
Sidney J Welfare 8
William Welfare 14

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 8 Oct 2008 01:00

Is this the family ?

Charles W Welfare
Name: Chas W Welfare
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Rye, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Malborough
Town: Salcombe
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Kingsbridge
Sub registration district: West Alvington
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Welfare 30
Chas W Welfare 6
Kate Welfare 2
Mary Welfare 29
Mary A Welfare 8 Mo
William Welfare

Jane

Jane Report 8 Oct 2008 00:26

Hi my Eliza Jane Welfare was born Icklesham abt 1870 Sussex.

Parents Charles Welfare and Mary Cloak
marr 1852 Rye.

Their 1st child Charles 1855 Rye

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Oct 2008 23:52

Possibly Eliza in 1881:-
Name: Eliza Welfare
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Philip
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Rye, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Rye
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Mermaid St

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Rye
Sub registration district: Rye
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Welfare 11
Eliza Welfare 37 born: Ham Street, Kent
Eliza Welfare 10
Emily Welfare 1
George Welfare 9
Harry Welfare 2
Mary Welfare 6
Nellie Welfare 4
Philip Welfare 36 born: Rye, Sussex
(Bargeman)

Could be confirmed with marriage certificate which gives fathers names and occupations.

***Lindsay***

***Lindsay*** Report 7 Oct 2008 23:39

Unusual name, but seems to be 2 of them!!!

Births
WELFARE Eliza Jane Rye.2b 10 2 1870

WELFARE Eliza Jane Rye.2b 1 2 1872

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Oct 2008 23:39

Births Jun 1891 (>99%)
FOREMAN Maud Alice Gravesend 2a 536
The district Gravesend is in the county of Kent

Jane

Jane Report 7 Oct 2008 23:29

Hi

Yes this is thier marriage,thankyou.

Her maiden name is Welfare,they are from Rye too.

1st child was Maud Alice Foreman 10th May 1891
Rye.

Thankyou

Heather

Heather Report 7 Oct 2008 23:26

But this is strange: 1891

Name: Eliza J Welfare
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Rye, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Highgate
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page

Ill let you ponder on that one :) I have to get to bed. Nite nite

Heather

Heather Report 7 Oct 2008 23:25

Well, it may be them.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Oct 2008 23:25

Oh there it is!
Well done Heather.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Oct 2008 23:24

Only Eliza Jane I could find, born Rye at the correct time:-

Births Jun 1872 (>99%)
WELFARE Eliza Jane Rye 2b 1

but can't yet find a marriage?

Heather

Heather Report 7 Oct 2008 23:16

So you say she had a child in 1891?

Is this the marriage?

Marriages Sep 1890
BURDEN Frederick John Strood 2a 911
Foreman Henry James Strood 2a 911
Linsdell Helena Emma Strood 2a 911
WELFARE Eliza Strood 2a 911

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Oct 2008 23:14

1901

Name: Eliza Foreman
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henr
Gender: Female
Where born: Rye, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Gravesend
Ecclesiastical parish: [St George MC]
Town: Gravesend
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Foreman 28
Harry Foreman 8
Henr Foreman 36 Seaman Merchant
born: Gravesend, Kent,
Maud Foreman 9
Richard Foreman 1

Heather

Heather Report 7 Oct 2008 23:09

Who else should be in the household?

When did they marry and what was her maiden name?

Jane

Jane Report 7 Oct 2008 23:05

Hi Everyone
I am looking for my grt grt granmother

Eliza Jane Foreman born abt 1870 Icklesham Sussex

She should be in Rye Sussex, as her first child was born

there may 1891.My grt grt granfather was a seaman

Henry James Foreman.

Thankyou

Jane