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Lol oh how these families like to get us in a tizzy , im sure they must have known we would look for them in later years ;-))

1861 England Census
about Thomas Lucas
Name: Thomas Lucas
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 201
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Lucas 36
Frederick Lucas 15
Henry Lucas 5
Thomas Lucas 34
Thomas Lucas 7


Me thinks it's me bedtime...i'm ina muddle now as to who i'm looking for! lol

Yep I will do.
Thanks for all your help Mrs B - Greatly appreciated ;-))

Dont take a short cut!

If you want to buy a BMD cert,heres how and here
is the addy where you can buy it online... (copy n paste the following...)

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


Never pay more than £7
For a marriage,you only need
put one partners name when ordering.

If you are ordering online from the GRO,
make sure that when the form asks
"Is the full GRO reference known?"
that you tick the 'yes' box.

Just for reference....

1841 England Census
about Joseph Lucas
Name: Joseph Lucas
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Foleshill
Hundred: Coventry
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub registration district: Foleshill
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Kevil 50
Mariah Kevil 43
Eliza Kevil 18
Harriett Kevil 9
Mariah Kevil 7
John Lucas 30
Jane Lucas 33
Thomas Lucas 13
Abram Lucas 11
John Lucas 9
Joseph Lucas 5
Ann Lucas 3
William Lucas 8 Mo

OOH how unusual a choice of 2 , lol

Marriages Jun 1847


Butler Joseph Coventry 16 443
Constance Sarah Ann Coventry 16 443
>>Fox Eliza Coventry 16 443
Green William Carter Coventry 16 443
>>>LUCAS Thomas Coventry 16 443
Palmer George Warwick 16 443
>>>Perkins Elizabeth Coventry 16 443
RUSSELL Sarah Coventry 16 443
Walton Samuel Coventry 16 443

Could be right year , area .Coleshill could well be Foleshill mistranscribed - looks good to me

Could this be your Thomas?

1851 England Census
about Thomas Lucas
Name: Thomas Lucas
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Coleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Foleshill
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 4i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Lucas 25 .... born: Fillongley, Warwickshire
Fredrick Lucas 3
Thomas Lucas 23

Could well be Thomas then Mrs B , if he can't be seen

??????

Deaths Sep 1843
LUCAS Thomas Foleshill

Deaths Mar 1848
Lucas Thomas Foleshill 16 423

Folsehill is in Coventry Warwickshire - not sure if there is a Folsehill in Birmingham
Just Wikipedia'd for Fosehill , only saying Coventry

This is just a guess....Foleshill as in Birmingham??


1861 England Census
about Joseph Lucas
Name: Joseph Lucas
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: B'ham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members: Name Age
Christopher Lucas 3
Emily Lucas 28
Emily Lucas 1
Harry Lucas 6
Joseph Lucas 27
Louisa Lucas 2 Mo
Caroline Stevens 38 ...Aunt

Yep that's him , then you see Thoams is not there but is on th 41

Is this him in 1851?

1851 England Census
about Joseph Lucas
Name: Joseph Lucas
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Foleshill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Lucas 6
Jane Lucas 40
John Lucas 14
Joseph Lucas 15
Loueara Lucas 8
William Lucas 11

I have no idea at the moment Mrs B , hoping I might get a lead ;-))

I have him with his mother Jane on the 41 aged 13 but then his father John appears to leave Jane , then Jane dies after the 51

Who did he marry?....and where??

It's usual to work backwards....

Gerri x

For:
Joseph Lucas b 1836 Foleshill Warks

Also for

Thomas Lucas b 1828 Foleshill Warks 1851 forwards
Thankyou
Deb x