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Tracey
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27 Sep 2008 12:38 |
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Hi I'm trying to trace information about my great grandfathers family.
He was Harold Edward Simpkin D.O.B 1894
His parents where Albert Edward Simpkin & Annie Elizabeth nee Gilbert?
According to the 1901 census he had 3 brothers Albert Leslie aged 9 Jospeh Claude aged 4 Clarence Edwin aged 0
In 1901 they were living in Basford, Nottingham.
If anybody has any information they can share, i would be truly greatful.
Thanks in advance Tracey
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27 Sep 2008 12:57 |
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1881 census Joseph SIMPKIN Head M Male 40 Loughboro, Leicester, England Engine Driver Maria SIMPKIN Wife M Female 37 Loughboro, Leicester, England Harry SIMPKIN Son U Male 15 Birmingham, Warwick, England Clerk Albert SIMPKIN Son Male 11 Nottingham, England Scholar Joseph SIMPKIN Son Male 7 Nottingham, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Brewhouse Yard No No Census Place Lenton, Nottingham, England Family History Library Film 1341797 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3341 / 22 Page Number 4
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27 Sep 2008 13:00 |
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Brewhouse Yard is still there and is now operated as a local history museum
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27 Sep 2008 13:08 |
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Possible marriage ...? ?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Joseph C Simpkin Name: Joseph C Simpkin Year of Registration: 1921 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's Surname: Harvey <<<<<<< Alice R M District: Basford County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 613 ??? Child..? ?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Gladys M Simpkin Name: Gladys M Simpkin Year of Registration: 1924 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's Maiden Name: Harvey <<<<<<<<<< District: Basford County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 493
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27 Sep 2008 13:09 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Albert L Simpkin Name: Albert L Simpkin Year of Registration: 1925 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's Surname: Holte <<<< Alice. District: Basford County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 588
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Tracey
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27 Sep 2008 23:37 |
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Thanks for all this information, i posted the message before going to work & never expected so much information so quickly. I find it really interesting that Basford was part of Derbyshire & Nottinghamshire.
Thanks Tracey ;-)
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Tracey
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28 Sep 2008 01:05 |
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After researching the 1891 census, I've found Albert Simpkin age 19 living with his Brother-In-Law, in Nottingham & his profession was listed as a carter, in the property lived 9 people including a number of in laws! I'm wondering as one of the residents in the property was an Emma Simpkin widowed. I'm wondering if this was the catylist for him to change to a better profession. As he'd become a book keeper by the 1901 census.
Annie Gilbert age 20 a lace hand living with her parents, 2 brothers & 2 sisters in Nottingham.
Tracey
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Alison
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28 Sep 2008 12:49 |
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Hi Tracey, don't know if this is any help, but I found it on the Parish Registers. This shows an Albert Edward Simpkin born in 1870. Could it be Harold's Dad Albert's birth. If the years look right, it also shows his Mum & Dad's name.
County Nottinghamshire Place Nottingham Church St Nicholas RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 09 Oct 1870 Forename Albert Edward Sex M FatherForename Joseph MotherForename Maria FatherSurname SIMPKIN MotherSurname Abode Castle Row FatherOccupation Stoker Notes FileNumber 4196
Good Luck. Alison
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Sharon
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28 Sep 2008 13:32 |
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hi tracey incase you havent got it the marriage date of albert edward simpkins to annie elizabeth gilbert 1 10 1891 lenton regards sharon
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Tracey
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28 Sep 2008 19:15 |
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Hi Thanks once again for all the help ;-) Alison i think the information you've found relates to information Ann of Green Gables posted. I'm 99% certain that my Albert Edward Simpkin was born in 1872. I'm basing this on the 1901 census which states his age as 29. I'm currently trying to decipher the information on the 1891 census which lists him living in Radford with his brother-in-law, to see if i can gain any further information. It lists an Emma Simpkin, widowed, so am going to see if i can follow this lead.
Thanks for all the help Tracey
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Julcoe
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29 Sep 2008 04:35 |
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? Your census of 1891 ?
1891 England Census about Albert Simpkin Name: Albert Simpkin Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Brother-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Radford Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 46 St Pauls Street Occupation: Carter
Registration district: Nottingham Sub registration district: Nottingham North West ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ernest Hickman 1/12 Frances Hickman 27 William Hickman 27 ... Head... General Labourer Albert Simpkin 19 <<<<<<<<<< Edwin Simpkin 10 .. scholar Elizabeth Simpkin 16 ... general servant Emma Simpkin 54 ... Mother-in-law ... Lace. Hand Frank Simpkin 14 ... scholar John Simpkin 12 ... scholar
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Julcoe
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29 Sep 2008 04:45 |
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Albert with family in 1881..
1881 England Census about Albert Simpkin Name: Albert Simpkin Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Radford County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 77 Outgang Lane Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Nottingham Sub registration district: Radford ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Simpkin 9 Edwin Simpkin 1 Elizabeth Simpkin 7 Emma Simpkin 41 Frances Simpkin 14 Frank Simpkin 5 George Simpkin 20 ... Screw maker John Simpkin 40 ... Night Soil labourer John Simpkin 2
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29 Sep 2008 04:49 |
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1871 England Census about John Simpkin Name: John Simpkin Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Radford Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: labourer Registration district: Radford Sub registration district: Radford ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 160 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Simpkin 3 months Emma Simpkin 33 ... Clapper Frances Simpkin 2 George Simpkin 9 John Simpkin 30
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Tracey
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1 Oct 2008 15:33 |
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Hi Julie Thanks for the 1881 census details. Does it list George as being the son of John Simpkin?
Thanks Tracey
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Julcoe
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2 Oct 2008 04:06 |
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Yes Tracey, all the children are John's children
George is in the 1871 census(above) only, 9yrs this time
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Julcoe
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2 Oct 2008 04:28 |
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Thought that I may-as-well give you the lot, so here is John on earlier records
1861 England Census about John Simpkin Name: John Simpkin Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Amma Gender: Male Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Radford Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: York Street Occupation: Ba?er Registration district: Radford Sub registration district: Lenton ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 118 Household Members: Name Age Amma Simpkin 22 ...Lace Worker John Simpkin 20
Then there is these 2. .. right year -wrong place .. right place -wrong year Name: John Simpkin Birth: abt 1841 - Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England Residence: 1851 - Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England Parents Henery & Rebecca
Name: John Simpkin Birth: abt 1835 - Nottinghamshire, England Residence: 1851 - Nottingham, Nottingham St Mary, Nottinghamshire, England Parents.. William & Hannah
You would need to buy the marriage certificate to find out who their fathers were to find them on earlier census records England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about John Simpkin Name: John Simpkin Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 252 .... Emma Simpson (only Emma on page)
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Julcoe
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2 Oct 2008 04:42 |
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1851 England Census about Emma Simpson Name: Emma Simpson Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Adam Mother's Name: Millicent Gender: Female Where born: Matlock, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Lenton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Butt Houses Occupation: ---
Registration district: Radford Sub registration district: Lenton ED, institution, or vessel: 1f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Name Age Adam Simpson 46 ...farmers labourer Ann Simpson 7 Eliza Simpson 4 Elizabeth Simpson 10 Emma Simpson 13 Francis Simpson 2 Frederick Simpson 15 ...Lace Maker Jane Simpson 2 Millicent Simpson 44 ... Seamstress
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Tracey
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3 Oct 2008 15:08 |
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Hi Julie thanks for all the info. ;-) I used FreeBMD to try to find Birth records for the children mentioned on the census.
I came up with the following: England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: First Name: Jane Brooks Surname: Simpson Also under this record is a Francis Brooks Simpson Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Radford County: Nottinghamshire
Which would tally with the childrens names of Jane & Francis on the 1851 census.
Also i researched Paul & found the following: England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: First Name: Paul Brookes Surname: Simpson Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Radford County: Nottinghamshire
I think the Brooks name maybe Millicents maiden name. On the various census records, the birthplace for Millicent, has different place spellings. But I believe she was born in the Parish of Wirksworth in Derbyshire in 1810. If you track her ages on the census's they all give a different birth year tracking back. the range is 1805 - 1811.
In all i believe Adam & Millicent had 8 children. What i find interesting if you look at the 1871 census showing John & Emma Simpkin living in Moores Yard, Radford. Above their record is a Millicent Simpson Widowed, with children Frances, Lydia & Paul.
I not sure if my tracking methods are correct as i'm new to Genealogy.
All your help has been much appreciated, hopefully i can help somebody else in the future.
Thanks Tracey
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