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Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Sep 2008 10:32

hi im looking for some info on joseph goodman. he was born around 1860c as he had my gg grandfather in woolwich london in1887. i have no idea of his mums name or if he had any other siblings or if he indeed came from london hinself as apparently the family is irish jewish?!! any help would be greatly appreciated as i dont seem to be getting very far with this at all!! thanks again! rachel

Sam

Sam Report 26 Sep 2008 10:35

What was your gg grandfathers name? Do you have his birth certificate and if so, what was his mothers name?

Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Sep 2008 10:38

oops sorry i should have mention that! it was henry john goodman. no i dont have his birth cert all i have is his marriage cert. thanks

Sam

Sam Report 26 Sep 2008 10:40

Is this the birth of Henry?

Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
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GOODMAN Henry John W. Ham 4a 66

What was Joseph's occupation on the marriage cert?

Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Sep 2008 10:43

i think he was born in march in 1887 but i may be wrong. like i said i really have not a lot of info! thanks again for your help! its really appreciated!

Helen

Helen Report 26 Sep 2008 10:45


1891 England Census
about Henry J Goodman
Name: Henry J Goodman
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Priscilla
Gender: Male
Where born: West Ham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry J Goodman 4
Joseph Goodman 38
Katherine Goodman 5
Margeret Goodman 1
Priscilla Goodman 30

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Could this be the family?

Sam

Sam Report 26 Sep 2008 10:46

This is a possible if the abopve birth is correct. Why do you think he was born March 1887 in Woolwich? If he was born March 1887 the above birth could still be correct if he was born towards the end of the month he could have been registered in the next quarter.

If you can tell us what Joseph's occupation was on the marriage cert it may help confirm whether this one is correct or not.

Name: Henry J Goodman
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Priscilla
Gender: Male
Where born: West Ham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry J Goodman 4
Joseph Goodman 38
Katherine Goodman 5
Margeret Goodman 1
Priscilla Goodman 30

Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Sep 2008 10:53

thank you so much!!! i went from some info that another member of the family researched and then got stuck the same as me!! on the marriage cert he is listed as a labourer. henry jnr got married in 1915 to clara rose in st johns church in woolwich. do you think the above is the right family?! thanks again to both of you for your help!

Helen

Helen Report 26 Sep 2008 10:55

It says fitters labourer

Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Sep 2008 10:57

oh so this is probably the one! fantastic! does it say where joseph was born as we have laways been told ireland but im not sure as there seems to be a lot of stories about the family which i have found not to match up!

Helen

Helen Report 26 Sep 2008 10:59

Name: Joseph Goodman
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Priscilla
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Sep 2008 11:04

oh i knew it!! thanks again for looking up the info for me! youve been really helpful!

Sam

Sam Report 26 Sep 2008 11:05

A possible marriage but you really need to get Henry's birth certificate to confirm Pricilla's maiden name:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
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GOODMAN Joseph St Olave 1d 229
ROBERTS Priscilla St. Olave 1d 229

Sam

Sam Report 26 Sep 2008 11:06

The same family in 1901:

Name: Harry Goodman
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Priscilla
Gender: Male
Where born: Custom House, Essex, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Goodman 6 months
Harry Goodman 14
Joseph Goodman 48
Joseph Goodman 4
Katherine Goodman 15
Maggie Goodman 11
Priscilla Goodman 41
William Goodman 8

Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Sep 2008 11:17

oh thats interesting! although im looking and im not sure that he was born in 87 it may have been 88. sorry!! this is the problem when you pick up someone elses work! would it still be a match? thanks again!

Sam

Sam Report 26 Sep 2008 11:24

Well that is the only Henry J Goodman on the census with a father called Joseph.

How old was he when he married, would that match with him being born in 1887?

Sam x

Rachel

Rachel Report 26 Sep 2008 11:32

hey yeah it would i checked that. it says he was 28 when he married in 1915. ut everything else im finding is flitting between both 87 and 88! are the census and records really accurate or can they slightly fluctuate? thanks again! rachel