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please can you help i have recived my uncles birth cert back today and his fathers name is not on it there is just a line across it also my nana who was called betty hooton nee gillibrand has signed christophers birth cert as betty murphy how can she do that murphy is christophers dads surname.

Well, if a fathers name is not shown this would mean the child was illegitimate.

You say nan was betty hooton? Was she married to someone else, not Christophers dad?

very long story betty had 8 children with my grandad phillip hooton all there children are called hooton

she then went on to have christopher murphy and his father was we belive joe murphy

but his name is not on cert it just has a line threw were father is

but betty my nana has signed christophers birth cert as betty murphy

she never married joe

If this man is the child's father, he has every right to access........whether he is named on the birth cert..or not.

Because your Nan wasn't married to Joe, Joe would have had to have been present at the registration for him to be inlcuded on the birth cert.

As for legal rights.....maybe Joe won custody of Christopher

sorry i have deleted it

i didnt realise he had rights i thought his name had to be on the birth cert.

i carnt understand why he has not signed it as he and my nana were together till christopher was 5

i was thinking that myself jeanette and i asked my aunts today but they said they carnt remember anything

they have not even bothered to look for him...

would joe of had to adopt him

Natalie....see my explanation above.

I am not married to my children's father and he had to be present at the registration in order for his name to appear on their birth certs

yes im not married and my childrens dad had to be there to sign for them

i just can not understand why i carnt find anything on christopher

Sorry, we must have been typing at the same time

Is it possible he could have moved abroad or gone to prison. Have you tried an electoral roll search for him? Did anything specific happen 5 years ago when he disappeared and were you or the family in contact with him before he went?

no joe took christopher when he was 5yrs old my nana just let him go.
none of the family speak of christopher or if they do its just lies because they dont want me to find him.
when ever i ask them anything they just say they dont no anything
my nana died in 1992.
i have just asked jean to do an electrol roll search for me.

That's just what I was going to suggest.

Hope you get lucky

Jeanette x

many thanks to you all for helping

i will find him xxx

natalie

Natalie....if you don't find him, there used to be a lady on here called Joan I think who used to help people find lost relatives. She used to have a thread on Tips. I don't know if she still does it but I could ask around for you

Thanks Claire!

I knew there would be another oldie about with a better memory than me ;-)))))

thanks so much i have emailed her to see if she can help

Well well,
I Hadn't realized that in order for the fathers name to be put on a certificate he had to be present, that probable explains why my father and his brother have no fathers name, but it dos,nt explain why his other brother and sister have different first names for their father and the same surname.

Bob Peters.

Could it be the same persons first name on one and his middle name used on the other?