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20 Sep 2008 11:06 |
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Thanks again, lost for words.
Perhaps he came to check out Australia & prospects before bringing his family here.
I realized after I posted the note that that may have been the case. Have emailed Lynne to see if there was a Frank Taylor on board the ship as well.
Verrryyy Interesting!!!!!
cheers, Chris
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20 Sep 2008 11:05 |
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Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Name: Cyril MUNN Date of departure: 23 August 1913 Port of departure: London Destination port: Fremantle Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1912 (calculated from age) Age: 1 Marital Status: Sex: Male Occupation: Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Name: Edith WALLER Date of departure: 23 August 1913 Port of departure: London Destination port: Fremantle Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1888 (calculated from age) Age: 25 Marital Status: Sex: Female Occupation: Dressmaker Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13
Ship: AJANA Official Number: 132712 Master's name: T Young Steamship Line: Australind Steam Shipping Company Limited Where bound: Fremantle, Australia Square feet: 11060 Registered tonnage: 4872 Passengers on voyage: 395
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20 Sep 2008 11:00 |
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Name: Ivy MUNN Date of departure: 23 August 1913 Port of departure: London Destination port: Fremantle Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1903 (calculated from age) Age: 10 Marital Status: Sex: Female Occupation: Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13
Possible births:
Births Sep 1902 (>99%) Munn Ivy Winifred Strood 2a 680 Births Mar 1903 (>99%) Munn Ivy Violet Malling 2a 768
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Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Name: Hilda MUNN Date of departure: 23 August 1913 Port of departure: London Destination port: Fremantle Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1905 (calculated from age) Age: 8 Marital Status: Sex: Female Occupation: Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13
Possible birth: Births Mar 1905 (>99%) Munn Hilda Maud Strood 2a 708
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20 Sep 2008 10:59 |
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You may already have this but I was looking for a connection to Eliza Munn:
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Name: Eliza MUNN Date of departure: 23 August 1913 Port of departure: London Destination port: Fremantle Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1879 (calculated from age) Age: 34 Marital Status: Sex: Female Occupation: H'wife Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13
Possible marriages:
Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%) Austin Ernest Albert Strood 2a 1151 Holbrook Annie Elizabeth Strood 2a 1151 >>> Munn Walter George Strood 2a 1151 >>> Reed Eliza Adelaide Strood 2a 1151
Birth of Eliza:
Births Mar 1878 (>99%) REED Eliza Adelaide Hoo 2a 495
1901 England Census about Walter G Munn Name: Walter G Munn Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Cooling, Kent, England Name: Eliza Munn Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Walter G Gender: Female Where born: Allhallows, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Cooling St James and Frindsbury All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: Cooling St James and Frindsbury All Saints Town: Cooling County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Nr Cooling Church
Occupation: Carter on farm
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status: Worker Registration district: Hoo Sub registration district: Hoo ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Munn 23 Walter G Munn 23
Looks like Walter travelled on his own the year before:
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Name: Walter G MUNN Date of departure: 9 May 1912 Port of departure: London Destination port: Fremantle Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1878 (calculated from age) Age: 34 Marital Status: Sex: Male Occupation: Farm Hand Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 26 Ship: OPHIR Official Number: 98673 Master's name: W De M Baynham Steamship Line: Orient Where bound: Australia Square feet: 8878 Registered tonnage: 2920 Passengers on voyage: 502
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20 Sep 2008 10:56 |
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Hi Chris
The marriage may not have been in September. They are registered in quarters so it could have been July August or September. But if it is her why did she marry and then leave so suddenly and revert to her maiden name!!
Regards LfW
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20 Sep 2008 10:41 |
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Gosh..If this is her 1st marriage...who is the Edith who left for Australia 23.8.1913...a month before this marriage?????
So many ???? to answer!!!
Did Edith assume someone elses name...etc etc.
Thank you lost for words...gives us more food for thought!!
cheers, Chris
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20 Sep 2008 10:03 |
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And is this her first marriage:
Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%) Geary Agnes M Heighes Strood 2a 1572 Heighes Herbert H Geary Strood 2a 1572 >>> Taylor Frank E G Waller Strood 2a 1572 >>> Waller Edith H Taylor Strood 2a 1572
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20 Sep 2008 10:01 |
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Just a quick update Spoke to cousin in WA.. Ivy & Hilda Munn known to family & Cyril even went to live with them at one stage.
Knew Edith had sisters by the name of Beatrice & Rhoda (letters found).
Edith came to Aust.1913 & married George Thomas Drage in 1917. We have looked for a marriage here in Australia but nothing has shown up....yet!!
Thanks all once again for your help...much appreciated.
cheers, Chris
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20 Sep 2008 10:00 |
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This looks like the marriage but note Edith is Taylor:
Surname Given Names Sex Spouse Surname Spouse Given Names Spouse Sex Place of Marriage Registration District Registration Number Registration Year DRAGE GEORGE T Male TAYLOR EDITH H Female FREMANTLE 98 1917 order
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20 Sep 2008 09:34 |
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Thank you Linda...all this info has us excited to think that after all this time we may be on the track to finding out the truth about Edith.!!
Thanks once again,
cheers, Chris
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20 Sep 2008 09:31 |
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1871 Name: Emma Waller Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Snodland, Kent, England Civil Parish: Snodland County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Malling Sub registration district: Aylesford ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 297 Household Members: Name Age Emma Waller 21 Sally E Waller 7 months Class: RG10; Piece: 916; GSU roll: 823496.
The address is hard to read it looks like jess cottages, john is not with them
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20 Sep 2008 09:25 |
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1881 Name: John Waller Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Kingswarden, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Snodland County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 4 Victoria Cotgs Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Labourer Cement Wks Registration district: Malling Sub registration district: 1C ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ada Waller 7 Albert Waller 2 Eliza Waller 8 Emma Waller 30 Flora Waller 6 John Waller 36 Lily Waller 10 Rhoda Waller
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20 Sep 2008 09:24 |
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Thank you for the info Lynne & lost for words. I will pass this info to Edith's g/son in Western Aust & see what we can piece together. I do have an extract of Cyril's birth cert. but it was issued in Perth WA on 3/3/1934 stating his parents as George Thomas Drage & Edith Hannah Drage!!! Cyril had to have it as he was getting married. It does state he was born Dist. of Sittingbourne on 5.1.1912.
Thank you both once again for your help...it is much appreciated.
Chris
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20 Sep 2008 09:18 |
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1891 census
ame: Edith Waller Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Emma Gender: Female Where born: Snodland, Kent, England Civil Parish: Ryarsh Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Snodland County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Holborough Road. 4 Victoria Cottages
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Malling Sub registration district: Aylesford ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ada Waller 17 Albert Waller 12 Arthur Waller 9 Beatrice Waller 4 Edith Waller 2 Emma Waller 41 Flo Waller 16 John Waller 40 labourer Rhoda Waller 11 RG12; Piece: 669; Folio 87; Page 51
They were all born in Snodland Kent, apart from father John who was born in Kings Walden, Hertfordshire
On the 1901 census they are still living in the same house. John and Albert are cement labourers
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20 Sep 2008 09:13 |
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Birth reg for edith Edith Hannah Waller Year of Registration: 1888 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Malling County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 588
snodland is in this district
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20 Sep 2008 09:11 |
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their is this child who travelled to Australia with the Dr Banardos Childrens home, Stepney, E
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Name: Cyril WALLER Date of departure: 25 November 1926 Port of departure: London Destination port: Sydney Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1913 (calculated from age) Age: 13 Marital Status: Sex: Male Occupation: Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 34 of 37 The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Frank Thomas WALLER Rev Wathen Henry WALLER Ship: BALLARAT Official Number: 145596 Master's name: Captain John W Parker Steamship Line: P. & O. Australia Via The Cape Service Where bound: Australia Square feet: 28117 Registered tonnage: 7928 Passengers on voyage: 1107
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20 Sep 2008 09:08 |
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Do you have Cyrils birth cert?
Births Mar 1912 (>99%) Waller Cyril S Waller Milton 2a 1921
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20 Sep 2008 08:57 |
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Am searching for parents' details for Edith (Hannah) Waller b Kent 1888/1889, poss. Snodland area. Also Cyril S Munn or Waller b Mar qtr 1912 Milton dist. (Sittingbourne??) Kent.....believed to be Edith's son. Both came to Aust 1913/14 on poss.ship "Ajana" & travelled with the Munn family. (We think her parents' names may have been John Waller & Emma Maud Muddle altho on her marriage cert her father was John Taylor)
Edith married my Uncle but was married under the name of Edith Taylor...a shroud of secrecy about Edith was evident in the older family members & so any secret went to the grave with them!!!
Any help to unravel this mystery would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Chris in Adelaide.
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