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Elusive Edith Waller/Taylor

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bazza

bazza Report 20 Sep 2008 11:06

Thanks again, lost for words.

Perhaps he came to check out Australia & prospects before
bringing his family here.

I realized after I posted the note that that may have been the case.
Have emailed Lynne to see if there was a Frank Taylor
on board the ship as well.

Verrryyy Interesting!!!!!

cheers,
Chris

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Sep 2008 11:05

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Cyril MUNN
Date of departure: 23 August 1913
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Fremantle
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1912 (calculated from age)
Age: 1
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation:
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13


Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Edith WALLER
Date of departure: 23 August 1913
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Fremantle
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1888 (calculated from age)
Age: 25
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Dressmaker
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13


Ship: AJANA
Official Number: 132712
Master's name: T Young
Steamship Line: Australind Steam Shipping Company Limited
Where bound: Fremantle, Australia
Square feet: 11060
Registered tonnage: 4872
Passengers on voyage: 395

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Sep 2008 11:00

Name: Ivy MUNN
Date of departure: 23 August 1913
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Fremantle
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1903 (calculated from age)
Age: 10
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation:
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13

Possible births:

Births Sep 1902 (>99%)
Munn Ivy Winifred Strood 2a 680
Births Mar 1903 (>99%)
Munn Ivy Violet Malling 2a 768

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Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Hilda MUNN
Date of departure: 23 August 1913
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Fremantle
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1905 (calculated from age)
Age: 8
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation:
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13


Possible birth:
Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
Munn Hilda Maud Strood 2a 708

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Sep 2008 10:59

You may already have this but I was looking for a connection to Eliza Munn:

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Eliza MUNN
Date of departure: 23 August 1913
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Fremantle
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1879 (calculated from age)
Age: 34
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: H'wife
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 13

Possible marriages:

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Austin Ernest Albert Strood 2a 1151
Holbrook Annie Elizabeth Strood 2a 1151
>>> Munn Walter George Strood 2a 1151
>>> Reed Eliza Adelaide Strood 2a 1151

Birth of Eliza:

Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
REED Eliza Adelaide Hoo 2a 495

1901 England Census about Walter G Munn
Name: Walter G Munn
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Cooling, Kent, England

Name: Eliza Munn
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Walter G
Gender: Female
Where born: Allhallows, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Cooling St James and Frindsbury All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: Cooling St James and Frindsbury All Saints
Town: Cooling
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: Nr Cooling Church

Occupation: Carter on farm

Condition as to marriage: Married

Education:

Employment status: Worker

Registration district: Hoo
Sub registration district: Hoo
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Munn 23
Walter G Munn 23

Looks like Walter travelled on his own the year before:

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Walter G MUNN
Date of departure: 9 May 1912
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Fremantle
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1878 (calculated from age)
Age: 34
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Farm Hand
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 26
Ship: OPHIR
Official Number: 98673
Master's name: W De M Baynham
Steamship Line: Orient
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 8878
Registered tonnage: 2920
Passengers on voyage: 502

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Sep 2008 10:56

Hi Chris

The marriage may not have been in September. They are registered in quarters so it could have been July August or September. But if it is her why did she marry and then leave so suddenly and revert to her maiden name!!

Regards
LfW

bazza

bazza Report 20 Sep 2008 10:41

Gosh..If this is her 1st marriage...who is the Edith who left
for Australia 23.8.1913...a month before this marriage?????

So many ???? to answer!!!

Did Edith assume someone elses name...etc etc.

Thank you lost for words...gives us more food for thought!!

cheers,
Chris

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Sep 2008 10:03

And is this her first marriage:

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Geary Agnes M Heighes Strood 2a 1572
Heighes Herbert H Geary Strood 2a 1572
>>> Taylor Frank E G Waller Strood 2a 1572
>>> Waller Edith H Taylor Strood 2a 1572

bazza

bazza Report 20 Sep 2008 10:01

Just a quick update
Spoke to cousin in WA..
Ivy & Hilda Munn known to family & Cyril even
went to live with them at one stage.

Knew Edith had sisters by the name of Beatrice
& Rhoda (letters found).

Edith came to Aust.1913 & married George
Thomas Drage in 1917. We have looked for a marriage
here in Australia but nothing has
shown up....yet!!

Thanks all once again for your help...much appreciated.

cheers,
Chris

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Sep 2008 10:00

This looks like the marriage but note Edith is Taylor:

Surname Given Names Sex Spouse Surname Spouse Given Names Spouse Sex Place of Marriage Registration District Registration Number Registration Year
DRAGE GEORGE T Male TAYLOR EDITH H Female FREMANTLE 98 1917 order

bazza

bazza Report 20 Sep 2008 09:34

Thank you Linda...all this info has us excited to think
that after all this time we may be on the
track to finding out the truth about Edith.!!

Thanks once again,

cheers,
Chris

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 20 Sep 2008 09:31

1871
Name: Emma Waller
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Snodland, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Snodland
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 297
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Waller 21
Sally E Waller 7 months

Class: RG10; Piece: 916; GSU roll: 823496.

The address is hard to read it looks like jess cottages, john is not with them

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 20 Sep 2008 09:25

1881
Name: John Waller
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingswarden, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Snodland
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 4 Victoria Cotgs
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Labourer Cement Wks

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: 1C
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ada Waller 7
Albert Waller 2
Eliza Waller 8
Emma Waller 30
Flora Waller 6
John Waller 36
Lily Waller 10
Rhoda Waller

bazza

bazza Report 20 Sep 2008 09:24

Thank you for the info Lynne & lost for words.
I will pass this info to Edith's g/son in Western Aust
& see what we can piece together.
I do have an extract of Cyril's birth cert. but it was
issued in Perth WA on 3/3/1934 stating
his parents as George Thomas Drage & Edith Hannah
Drage!!! Cyril had to have it as he was getting married.
It does state he was born Dist. of Sittingbourne on
5.1.1912.

Thank you both once again for your help...it is much
appreciated.

Chris

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 20 Sep 2008 09:18

1891 census

ame: Edith Waller
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Snodland, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Ryarsh
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Snodland
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: Holborough Road. 4 Victoria Cottages

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ada Waller 17
Albert Waller 12
Arthur Waller 9
Beatrice Waller 4
Edith Waller 2
Emma Waller 41
Flo Waller 16
John Waller 40 labourer
Rhoda Waller 11
RG12; Piece: 669; Folio 87; Page 51

They were all born in Snodland Kent, apart from father John who was born in Kings Walden, Hertfordshire

On the 1901 census they are still living in the same house.
John and Albert are cement labourers

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 20 Sep 2008 09:13

Birth reg for edith
Edith Hannah Waller
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Malling
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 588

snodland is in this district

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Sep 2008 09:11

their is this child who travelled to Australia with the Dr Banardos Childrens home, Stepney, E

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Cyril WALLER
Date of departure: 25 November 1926
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Sydney
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1913 (calculated from age)
Age: 13
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation:
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 34 of 37
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Frank Thomas WALLER
Rev Wathen Henry WALLER
Ship: BALLARAT
Official Number: 145596
Master's name: Captain John W Parker
Steamship Line: P. & O. Australia Via The Cape Service
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 28117
Registered tonnage: 7928
Passengers on voyage: 1107

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 20 Sep 2008 09:08

Do you have Cyrils birth cert?

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Waller Cyril S Waller Milton 2a 1921

bazza

bazza Report 20 Sep 2008 08:57

Am searching for parents' details for Edith (Hannah)
Waller b Kent 1888/1889, poss. Snodland area. Also
Cyril S Munn or Waller b Mar qtr 1912 Milton dist.
(Sittingbourne??) Kent.....believed to be Edith's son.
Both came to Aust 1913/14 on poss.ship "Ajana" &
travelled with the Munn family.
(We think her parents' names may have been
John Waller & Emma Maud Muddle altho on her
marriage cert her father was John Taylor)

Edith married my Uncle but was married under the name
of Edith Taylor...a shroud of secrecy about Edith was
evident in the older family members & so
any secret went to the grave with them!!!

Any help to unravel this mystery would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks
Chris in Adelaide.