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I found that death for Ann at age 26 too (sad).

As for the others, very possibly the right family as all the places are near to Llowes, Hay, Appledore etc and somewhere Clodock and Longtown have come up in the family already....

This is brilliant - thank you so much.

I think I will need the marriage cert for Richard and Emily to find out anything about Emily herself. I keep wondering if she was married before and Hoskin wasnt her maiden name.

Deaths Mar 1844
East Ann Hay 26 286


JAMES EAST
Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
27 FEB 1791 Eardisley, Hereford, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: RICHARD EAST
Family
Mother: SARAH

James East
Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
1791 Eardisley, Hereford, England
Christening:
Death:
, , England
Burial:

Parents:
Father: Richard East
Family
Mother: Sarah Watkins

JAMES EAST
Pedigree
Male
Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN JONES
Family
Marriage:
24 DEC 1817 Clodock And Longtown, Hereford, England

Don't know if this is the correct James.

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This is great and confirms most of what I know about Richard and his family (although I cannot find a maiden name for Richard's mother Ann.)

I cannot though, try as I might, find out anything about his wife Emily. I cannot find a birth at all, unless her name wasnt Hoskin. I know from the census roughly where she was born (Dorstone in Herefordshire - not too far from Abbey Dore where Richard was born, from Llowes (which is just on the border) and from the area where both Richard and their daughter Sarah worked for the Webbs).

Is there anything out there about Emily?!

1871 Wales Census about James East
Name: James East
Age: 83
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788
Relation: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Eardisley, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Llowes
Ecclesiastical parish: St David
County/Island: Radnorshire
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Hay
Sub registration district: Clyro
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
James East 83
David Owens 44
Elizabeth Owens 41
Richard Owens 5

1861 Wales Census about James East
Name: James East
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1789
Relation: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Eversley, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Llowes
County/Island: Radnorshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image
Registration district: Hay
Sub registration district: Clyro
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
James East 72
James Lewis 30
Sarah Lewis 27

1851 Wales Census about James Eeast
Name: James Eeast
[James East]
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Eardsley, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Llowes
County/Island: Radnorshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Occupation: View Image
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Hay
Sub registration district: Talgarth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizth East 23
James Eeast 57

This is another one, born Wales, not herefordshire.

1841 Wales Census about Richard East
Name: Richard East
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Llowes
Hundred: Painscastle
County/Island: Radnorshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View Image
Occupation: View Image
Registration district: Hay
Sub registration district: Clyro
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Name
Ann East 52
James East 50
Richard East 6
Sarah East 12

Yes thats www.familysearch.org

Think I found a sister Eliza not Elizabeth, off to have a check

This is who I found but I don't think she is yours unfortunately

ELIZA EMILY EAST
Birth: 10 NOV 1821

Christening: 24 FEB 1822 Saint John Horseleydowns, Bermondsey, London, England

Father: JAMES EAST
Mother: ANN JENNETTA

Diddy - that is defintly him on the 1851. Some years later, his daughter Sarah was in service at a pub in herefordshire - with the sam John and Mary Webb (dates/ages match). so Im certain thats our man

selena - I dont remember seeing that but those are the parents I assumed were his - is that family search?

Yes Diddy, I think it is. Although the census reads Abzoor as his place of birth, I think it may have been the pronounciation - AbbyDore-Abzoor, what do you think?
Also if I have the correct parents for him, they also had a daughter Elizabeth.

1851 England Census about Richd East
Name: Richd East
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Abbedore, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Pembridge
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Presteigne
Sub registration district: Brilley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Adams 20
John Davies 2
Richd East 14
John Evans 16
William Hams 21
William Probert 23
Sarah Skyenn 5
John Webb 40
Mary Webb 40

I expect you have this

RICHARD EAST
Christening: 01 FEB 1835 Abbey Dore, Hereford, England

Father: JAMES EAST
Mother: ANNE

Yes, thats them.

Im still looking too - but four eyes are better than two - the more the better really!!

Is this him with a sister?

1861 Wales Census about Richard East
Name: Richard East
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Abzoor, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Tredegar
Town: Ebbw Vale
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image
Registration district: Bedwelty
Sub registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members:
Name Age
James Draper 15
John Draper 18
Mary Draper 39
Samuel Draper 8
William Draper 11
Elizabeth East 29
Richard East 22
John Williams 94

Just for reference:

Marriages Dec 1860

Bartholomew Joseph Alexander Hay 11b 281
East Richard Hay 11b 281
Hoskins Emily Hay 11b 281
Joseph John Crickhowell 11b 281
Toplis Elizabeth Smith Hay 11b 281

Nothing on familysearch so far....

Im trying to find my GGG grandparents on familysearch but just cant seem to locate them.

Some of you will know that I have this problem and you clever people usually find something that I cant so I hope someone can help this time.

Here is what I know.

Richard East was born in Abbey Dore, Herefordshire, in 1839.
Emily Hoskin was born in Dorstone, Herefordshire, in 1836.
(these dates are from 1871 Wales census)

They married in 1860, RD of Hay. I am going to send for the marriage certificate but hoped to find something - anything - about them on the usual sites.

Richard's family, if I am correct, came from Llowes in what is now Powys but was then Radnorshire.

Cant think of anything else to tell you, but please let me know if this is not enough info and if I have anything else you need I will post it.

Thank you all so much. You are all a great help always.

Julie