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31 Aug 2008 20:57 |
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Dear all,
I am looking for two of ggggg uncles in the census:
1) Joseph Smitheringale, who was born in 1815 in West Deeping, and he died in August 1853 in Maxey, Northamptonshire.
2) Henry Smitheringale, born in 1826 in Maxey, Northamptonshire.
Obviously Joseph can only be found in the 1841 and 1851 census, but as for Henry I know of no other information other than he may have been bankrupt in 1862 ... I hope hoping to find out through research.
thank you in advance for any help!
Peter
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31 Aug 2008 21:04 |
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1851 Name: Henry Smitheringale Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: West Deeping County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: carpenter and wheel right journeyman
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Stamford Sub registration district: Stamford ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age John Christian 8 Thomas Christian 10 Alice Smitheringale 39 Eliza Smitheringale 5 Mo Henry Smitheringale 25 Sarah J Smitheringale 2 with and children born in West deeping
the Christian boys are sons in law (step sons) so they must be the children from Alices first marriage, that would explain why she is older than him
HO107; Piece: 2094; Folio: 545; Page: 16
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31 Aug 2008 21:05 |
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Thank you Linda; I beleive this is Henry in 1881:
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Henry SMITHERINGALE Head M Male 54 Maxey, Northampton, England Joiner Alice SMITHERINGALE Wife M Female 69 West Deeping, Lincoln, England Joseph SMITHERINGALE Son M Male 26 West Deeping, Lincoln, England Annie SMITHERINGALE D In Law M Female 21 Newthorpe, Nottingham, England Eliza SMITHERINGALE Gd Daur Female 1 Eastwood, Nottingham, England
Source Information: Dwelling 35 Eastwood Breach Census Place Eastwood, Nottingham, England Family History Library Film 1341792 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3321 / 40 Page Number 68
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31 Aug 2008 21:06 |
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1851 Henry Smitheringale Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: West Deeping County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Carpenter and Wheelwright. Journeyman
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Stamford Sub registration district: Stamford ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age John Christian 8 Thomas Christian 10 Alice Smitheringale 39 Eliza Smitheringale 5 Mo Henry Smitheringale 25 Sarah J Smitheringale 2 Regards Vera
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31 Aug 2008 21:06 |
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1851 census
Name: John Smitheringale Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: West Deeping, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Maxey Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Stilton ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Charles Smitheringale 5 Fanny Smitheringale 3 George Smitheringale 13 Henry Smitheringale 9 John Smitheringale 36 John Smitheringale 11 Mary Ann Smitheringale 21
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31 Aug 2008 21:09 |
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1861 Name: Henry Smitheringals Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: West Deeping Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Stamford Sub registration district: Barnack ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Household Members: Name Age Thos Christian 20 Alice Smitheringals 49 Alice Smitheringals 8 Eliza Smitheringals 10 Henry Smitheringals 34 Joseph Pretty Smitheringals 6 RG9; Piece: 2314; Folio: 110; Page: 19;
Address wheelwrights shop he is now a carpenter and wheelwright master
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31 Aug 2008 21:11 |
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1871 Henry Smetheringale Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: West Deeping County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Stamford Sub registration district: Barnack ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 88 Household Members: Name Age Alice Smetheringale 59 Alice Smetheringale 18 dressmaker Henry Smetheringale 44 carpenter master Joseph P Smetheringale 16 carpenters son RG10; Piece: 3310; Folio: 142; Page: 15
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31 Aug 2008 21:15 |
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1891 Henry Smitheringale Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Eastwood Ecclesiastical parish: Eastwood Town: Eastwood County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 35 Breach
Occupation: joiner
Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Basford Sub registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Smitheringale 79 Henry Smitheringale 64 RG12; Piece: 2659; Folio 56; Page 27
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31 Aug 2008 21:28 |
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I can't find them in 41 and the only 51 possibly Joseph is the John found above
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Peter
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31 Aug 2008 21:48 |
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Wow I left the PC and imagine my surprise to see all of this brilliant info - Linda thank you so much you have really pieced the family together for me. I found Henry's wife's Alice had died in 1896 aged 82, but strangely I can not find Henry's death ...
Lost for Words thank you - I had found Henry Smitheringale's bankrupt in another newspaper database but thanks to you I now have this:
Henry Smitheringale, of West Deeping, in the county of Lincoln, Wheelwright, having been adjudged bankrupt under a Petition for adjudication of Bankruptcy, filed in the County Court of Lincolnshire, holden at Stamford, on the 6th day of March, 1862, a public sitting, for tbe said bankrupt to pass his Last Examination, and make application for his Discharge, will be held before Francis Ellis, Esq., Judge of the said Court, on the 12th day of May next, at the Court, at Stamford, at two o'clock in the afternoon precisely, the day last aforesaid being the day limited for the said bankrupt to surrender. Messrs. Slieild and Hough, Registrars of the said County Court, are the Official Assignees, and Mr. Thomas Laxton, of Stamford, is the Solicitor acting in the bankruptcy.
Yes Alice, was married before she married Henry in 1848 ... she married Thomas Christian in 1837 ...
Wow thank you all so much this is fabulous, and this all makes a very interesting family, what with the info I am gathering lately.
Can I ask though what Rebecca and her son Joseph are doing at Waldram Hall in 1841 - servants? If they are living in grandeur due to an inheritance that is news lol
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31 Aug 2008 22:19 |
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No wonder I couldn't find them in 41, given this transcription
Name: Rebecca Smithmingh Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 Gender: Female Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Maxey Hundred: Nassaburgh County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Crowland Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Smithmingh 25 Rebecca Smithmingh 50
Rebecca has nothing written next to her joseph has Wheelwright
The image shows that they are just living in the village of Maxey, The hall was on page one of the village, they are on page 5, nothing to do with the hall.
The only other family of the same name in the village are that John and Elizabeth and their children
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Peter
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31 Aug 2008 22:34 |
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Thank you so much for your help; John and Elizabeth are my gggg grandparents, and John is another son of Rebecca.
Thank you so much; I hope I am not be cheeky but did you see Joseph in 1851, just before he died in 1853?
Thank you again for your help!
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31 Aug 2008 22:42 |
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I can't see him on the search, but i have the village images, there are 23 pages to look through.... back soon
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31 Aug 2008 22:46 |
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Rebecca widow 52 unmarried daughter ann 30 Grandchildren James 7 and John 4
no Joseph with them, I will keep looking
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31 Aug 2008 22:55 |
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John Smitheringale 36Railway porter , Mary Ann 21, George 13 John 11 Henry 9 Charles 5 Fanny 1
Joseph is not in Maxey, so goodness knows where he was tha tnight
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Peter
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31 Aug 2008 22:57 |
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Linda that is very sweet to do this search for me. Thank you very much ... I shall see what else I can find, and if there is anything new I will post here so we know what happened to Joseph!
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1 Sep 2008 08:14 |
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LFW The occupation for Joseph in 1851 looks like sawyer. Hes also unmarried
The family hes living with Katkley has Sarah as head of house and Ann as wife.Sarah is a male probably Edward occ sawyer
1841 Edward Rapley 1791 occ sawyer Ann 1791 Essex Mary Rapley 1821. Ann Rapley 1826. address Malting Yard Waltham Abbey
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Peter
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1 Sep 2008 19:46 |
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Wow! Thank you for this - you have helped me really piece this together! Thank you so much - so sad that Joseph was to die so soon after the 1851 aged so young ...
Thank you for your help again!
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