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1841/71 lookup please

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Kathleen

Kathleen Report 28 Aug 2008 22:04

Hi, I am still on the trail of the Gibbisons, this time I need to find Mary Gibbison in 1841 Census, Northumberland
Her birth 1827 Recorded in: Alnwick, Northumberland, England.

Also in 1871/1881, she may now be called King although I do not know her husbands first name, or even if they were married

Thanks again
Kathy

Vera

Vera Report 28 Aug 2008 22:07

1841
Mary Gibbison
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Embleton
Hundred: Bambrough (South Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Embleton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Phillis Fram 55
Mary Gibbison 13
William Hamson 89


Regards Vera

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 28 Aug 2008 22:09

There are two possibles in the 1841 census (I think the age for the first one makes her the most likely):-

Name: Mary Gibbison
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Embleton
Hundred: Bambrough (South Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View Image
Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Embleton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillis Fram 55
Mary Gibbison 13
William Hamson 89

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 819; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Embleton; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 8; Page: 11; Line: 3; GSU roll: 438884.

OR:-

Name: Mary Gibbison
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Stannington
Hundred: Castle (West Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View Image
Registration district: Castle Ward
Sub registration district: Ponteland
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Eleanor Gibbison 1
Frances Gibbison 3
George Gibbison 6
Jane Gibbison 60
Mary Gibbison 40
Mary Gibbison 15
Thomas Gibbison 50
Thomas Gibbison 15

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 824; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Stannington; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 3; Page: 1; Line: 14; GSU roll: 438887.

Kath. x

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 28 Aug 2008 22:17

hi Vera and Kathleen if you have her right does the census say what if any relation she is to the other household members, it fits her age and place of birth. But is it her?

any luck in 1851

Thanks
Kathy

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Aug 2008 22:23

Relationships weren't recorded on the 1841.


Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Aug 2008 22:25

1851 England Census
Name: Mary Gibbinson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Elisabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Embleton, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Elwick
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: Elwick

Occupation: Whole household ag labs except for Elizabeth

Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Elisabeth Gibbinson 50
James Gibbinson 21
Joseph Gibbinson 68
Joseph Gibbinson 24
Mary Gibbinson 23
John Purves 18


Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Aug 2008 22:33

This is probably the older Mary from 1841.

Marriages Sep 1855
Gibbeson Mary Castle Ward 10b 317
Watson James Castle W 10b 317

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Aug 2008 22:34

You think this may be her?

1881 England Census
Name: Mary King
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Embleton, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Embleton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Charwoman

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Embleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Duncan 44
Elizabeth A. King 17 - Embleton
Mary King 52
William King 22 - Embleton


Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Aug 2008 22:38

1871 England Census
Name: Mary King
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Embleton, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Embleton
Ecclesiastical parish: Embleton
Town: Embleton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: charwoman

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Embleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth A King 7
Mary King 40
William King 12


Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Aug 2008 22:39

1861 England Census
Name: Mary King
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Embleton
Town: Embleton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: 102 Embleton Village, Grocer's shop

Occupation: servant

Condition as to marriage: married
Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Embleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Gibbeson 76
Mary King 32
George King 13
William King 2


Births Sep 1847
King George Oswald Alnwick 25 213

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 28 Aug 2008 22:46

hi Osibird, yes that looks like her in 1881. Here she is in 1861, although I cant find a record of her in 1871 or her marriage.
1861
GIBBESON, Alice Head Widow 1785 Grocer Northumberland Alnwick
KING, Mary Granddaughter Married F 1829 Servant Northumberland V
KING, George Grandson M 1848 Scholar EmbletonNorthumberland
KING, William Grandson M 2 1859 EmbletonNorthumberland

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Aug 2008 23:12

Hmmmm

1851 England Census
Name: Alice Gibbison
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Northd, Alnwick

Civil Parish: Embleton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Warkworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Gibbison 67
Mary King 23 - labourer's wife [Where is this elusive husband?]
George C King 3

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Aug 2008 23:19

1841 England Census
Name: Alice Gibbison
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Embleton
Hundred: Bambrough (South Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Embleton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Gibbison 56
Elizabeth Gibbison 6
Oswald Gibbison 66 - ag lab


mgnv

mgnv Report 29 Aug 2008 03:34

Kathleen correctly transcribes the 1861 census. However, in 1851, note that George is recorded as Alice's Gt Grandson (in spite of what Ancestry says). Here's the missing 1871:

1871 England Census
Civil Parish: Embleton
Ecclesiastical parish: Embleton
Town: Embleton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: [blank]
Registration district: Alnwick
Sub registration district: Embleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 19

Mary King 40 Embleton, Northumberland, England Head M Charwoman
William King 12 Embleton, Northumberland, England Son Scholar
Elizabeth A King 7 Embleton, Northumberland, England Daughter

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5176; Folio: 40; Page: 3; GSU roll: 848487.


Births Sep 1847 (>99%)
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King George Oswald Alnwick 25 213
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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Aug 2008 04:30

I looked at the image of the 1841 Census, and the following entries were there


Phillis Fram 55 Woman of a_e Work (???)
Mary Gibbison 13 (no entry)
William Hamson 89 Pauper


Phillis was separated from Mary and William by a single line, which usually means occupying separate quarters in the same building. Mary and William apparently shared the same quarters




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Aug 2008 04:39

so here's a marriage registration for a Mary Gibbison.

But not to a King

who did she marry??

Marriages Jun 1841 (>99%)

DOUGLASS Barbara Newcastle On Tyne 25 347
GIBBISON Mary Newcastle Tyne 25 347
GOLIGHTLEY George Newcastle Tyne 25 347
PATTISON Isabella Newcastle Tyne 25 347
REAY John Newtle on Tyne 25 347
SPENCE Christian Newcastle Tyne 25 347
STANIFORD Ann Newcastle On Tyne 25 347
VEITCH Thomas Newcastle Tyne 25 347



sylvia

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 29 Aug 2008 20:39

hi, thanks for all your answers, you are night owls, or is it the time zone your in, anyway thanks
Kathy

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Aug 2008 08:00

From: http://www.ndfhs.org.uk/RegIndex.html

1841 VEITCH Thomas
Marriage venue - All Saints
1841 GIBBISON Mary
Register No./Entry No.
EAS3/183


1841 England Census
Civil Parish: St John
Hundred: Castle (West Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: Buckingham Street
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub registration district: Westgate

Thomas Veitch 25 Northumberland, England Waggonman
Mary Veitch 25 Northumberland, England

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 824; Book: 8; Civil Parish: St John; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 1C; Folio: 11; Page: 17; Line: 11; GSU roll: 438887.


1851 England Census
Civil Parish: Willington
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: Willington Quay
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub registration district: Wallsend
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Household schedule number: 84

Thomas Veitch 42 Wark, Nottinghamshire, England Head M Seperator Lead Works
Mary Veitch 44 Chatton, Nottinghamshire, England Wife M
Agnes Hall Veitch 8 Newcastle, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Scholar
Mary Veitch 6 Newcastle, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Scholar
Henry Veitch 4 Newcastle, Nottinghamshire, England Son Scholar
William T Veitch 9 Mo Newcastle, Nottinghamshire, England Son

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2409; Folio: 104; Page: 21; GSU roll: 87087.


I'm thinking this was another Mary Gibbison