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Kathleen
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28 Aug 2008 22:04 |
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Hi, I am still on the trail of the Gibbisons, this time I need to find Mary Gibbison in 1841 Census, Northumberland Her birth 1827 Recorded in: Alnwick, Northumberland, England.
Also in 1871/1881, she may now be called King although I do not know her husbands first name, or even if they were married
Thanks again Kathy
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Vera
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28 Aug 2008 22:07 |
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1841 Mary Gibbison Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Embleton Hundred: Bambrough (South Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Alnwick Sub registration district: Embleton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Phillis Fram 55 Mary Gibbison 13 William Hamson 89 Regards Vera
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KathleenBell
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28 Aug 2008 22:09 |
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There are two possibles in the 1841 census (I think the age for the first one makes her the most likely):-
Name: Mary Gibbison Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Embleton Hundred: Bambrough (South Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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View Image Registration district: Alnwick Sub registration district: Embleton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Phillis Fram 55 Mary Gibbison 13 William Hamson 89
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 819; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Embleton; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 8; Page: 11; Line: 3; GSU roll: 438884.
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Name: Mary Gibbison Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Stannington Hundred: Castle (West Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
View Image Registration district: Castle Ward Sub registration district: Ponteland Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eleanor Gibbison 1 Frances Gibbison 3 George Gibbison 6 Jane Gibbison 60 Mary Gibbison 40 Mary Gibbison 15 Thomas Gibbison 50 Thomas Gibbison 15
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 824; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Stannington; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 3; Page: 1; Line: 14; GSU roll: 438887.
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Kathleen
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28 Aug 2008 22:17 |
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hi Vera and Kathleen if you have her right does the census say what if any relation she is to the other household members, it fits her age and place of birth. But is it her?
any luck in 1851
Thanks Kathy
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Ozibird
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28 Aug 2008 22:23 |
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Relationships weren't recorded on the 1841.
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Ozibird
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28 Aug 2008 22:25 |
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1851 England Census Name: Mary Gibbinson Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Elisabeth Gender: Female Where born: Embleton, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Elwick County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Elwick
Occupation: Whole household ag labs except for Elizabeth
Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 51 Household Members: Name Age Elisabeth Gibbinson 50 James Gibbinson 21 Joseph Gibbinson 68 Joseph Gibbinson 24 Mary Gibbinson 23 John Purves 18
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Ozibird
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28 Aug 2008 22:33 |
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This is probably the older Mary from 1841.
Marriages Sep 1855 Gibbeson Mary Castle Ward 10b 317 Watson James Castle W 10b 317
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Ozibird
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28 Aug 2008 22:34 |
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You think this may be her?
1881 England Census Name: Mary King Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Embleton, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Embleton County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Charwoman Registration district: Alnwick Sub registration district: Embleton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Duncan 44 Elizabeth A. King 17 - Embleton Mary King 52 William King 22 - Embleton
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Ozibird
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28 Aug 2008 22:38 |
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1871 England Census Name: Mary King Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Embleton, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Embleton Ecclesiastical parish: Embleton Town: Embleton County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation: charwoman
Condition as to marriage: married
Registration district: Alnwick Sub registration district: Embleton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth A King 7 Mary King 40 William King 12
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Ozibird
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28 Aug 2008 22:39 |
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1861 England Census Name: Mary King Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Embleton Town: Embleton County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: 102 Embleton Village, Grocer's shop
Occupation: servant
Condition as to marriage: married Registration district: Alnwick Sub registration district: Embleton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 106 Household Members: Name Age Alice Gibbeson 76 Mary King 32 George King 13 William King 2 Births Sep 1847 King George Oswald Alnwick 25 213
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Kathleen
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28 Aug 2008 22:46 |
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hi Osibird, yes that looks like her in 1881. Here she is in 1861, although I cant find a record of her in 1871 or her marriage. 1861 GIBBESON, Alice Head Widow 1785 Grocer Northumberland Alnwick KING, Mary Granddaughter Married F 1829 Servant Northumberland V KING, George Grandson M 1848 Scholar EmbletonNorthumberland KING, William Grandson M 2 1859 EmbletonNorthumberland
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Ozibird
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28 Aug 2008 23:12 |
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Hmmmm
1851 England Census Name: Alice Gibbison Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Northd, Alnwick Civil Parish: Embleton County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Alnwick Sub registration district: Warkworth ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Alice Gibbison 67 Mary King 23 - labourer's wife [Where is this elusive husband?] George C King 3
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Ozibird
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28 Aug 2008 23:19 |
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1841 England Census Name: Alice Gibbison Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785 Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Embleton Hundred: Bambrough (South Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Alnwick Sub registration district: Embleton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Gibbison 56 Elizabeth Gibbison 6 Oswald Gibbison 66 - ag lab
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29 Aug 2008 03:34 |
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Kathleen correctly transcribes the 1861 census. However, in 1851, note that George is recorded as Alice's Gt Grandson (in spite of what Ancestry says). Here's the missing 1871:
1871 England Census Civil Parish: Embleton Ecclesiastical parish: Embleton Town: Embleton County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: [blank] Registration district: Alnwick Sub registration district: Embleton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 19
Mary King 40 Embleton, Northumberland, England Head M Charwoman William King 12 Embleton, Northumberland, England Son Scholar Elizabeth A King 7 Embleton, Northumberland, England Daughter
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5176; Folio: 40; Page: 3; GSU roll: 848487.
Births Sep 1847 (>99%) ------------------------------------------ King George Oswald Alnwick 25 213 ------------------------------------------
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SylviaInCanada
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29 Aug 2008 04:30 |
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I looked at the image of the 1841 Census, and the following entries were there
Phillis Fram 55 Woman of a_e Work (???) Mary Gibbison 13 (no entry) William Hamson 89 Pauper
Phillis was separated from Mary and William by a single line, which usually means occupying separate quarters in the same building. Mary and William apparently shared the same quarters
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SylviaInCanada
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29 Aug 2008 04:39 |
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so here's a marriage registration for a Mary Gibbison.
But not to a King
who did she marry??
Marriages Jun 1841 (>99%) DOUGLASS Barbara Newcastle On Tyne 25 347 GIBBISON Mary Newcastle Tyne 25 347 GOLIGHTLEY George Newcastle Tyne 25 347 PATTISON Isabella Newcastle Tyne 25 347 REAY John Newtle on Tyne 25 347 SPENCE Christian Newcastle Tyne 25 347 STANIFORD Ann Newcastle On Tyne 25 347 VEITCH Thomas Newcastle Tyne 25 347
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Kathleen
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29 Aug 2008 20:39 |
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hi, thanks for all your answers, you are night owls, or is it the time zone your in, anyway thanks Kathy
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mgnv
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30 Aug 2008 08:00 |
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From: http://www.ndfhs.org.uk/RegIndex.html
1841 VEITCH Thomas Marriage venue - All Saints 1841 GIBBISON Mary Register No./Entry No. EAS3/183
1841 England Census Civil Parish: St John Hundred: Castle (West Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Buckingham Street Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub registration district: Westgate
Thomas Veitch 25 Northumberland, England Waggonman Mary Veitch 25 Northumberland, England
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 824; Book: 8; Civil Parish: St John; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 1C; Folio: 11; Page: 17; Line: 11; GSU roll: 438887.
1851 England Census Civil Parish: Willington County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Willington Quay Registration district: Tynemouth Sub registration district: Wallsend ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Household schedule number: 84
Thomas Veitch 42 Wark, Nottinghamshire, England Head M Seperator Lead Works Mary Veitch 44 Chatton, Nottinghamshire, England Wife M Agnes Hall Veitch 8 Newcastle, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Scholar Mary Veitch 6 Newcastle, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Scholar Henry Veitch 4 Newcastle, Nottinghamshire, England Son Scholar William T Veitch 9 Mo Newcastle, Nottinghamshire, England Son
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2409; Folio: 104; Page: 21; GSU roll: 87087.
I'm thinking this was another Mary Gibbison
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